Okay What is the consensus way to encode a NTSC dvd?

[Gideon30]

Okay. I have posted before inquiring about this issue, and after reading guides from numerous sites, I am curious what the majority of you do with a NTSC 29 fps source to VCD. The flexion site suggests using the telecide filter in VDub which keeps it at 29fps. Dvdripguides.com suggests using dvd2avi's forced film option on ALL ntsc, and doom9's site suggest the tmpgenc ITVC. What do most of you do? So far, I have used the flexion suggestion with the telecide filter, and while the vcd's are watchable, the motion seems just a tad bit off. I think I might just go ahead and encode a little section of film each way and check it out. In the meantime, what are your opinions?

[hazchem]

maybe im blind but i live in australia reg 4(pal) i encode the same way for ntsc and pal rip with smart ripper then run dvd2avi then encode using profile vcdpal in TMPGEnc allways looks fine to me like right now im watching t2 looks goooooooooood and may i say what a great movie this is heheheh

[adam]

I'm not familiar with the telecide filter but if it is doing what your saying than its just a deinterlace filter, which will not result in the highest quality vcd available.

Ok, dvd2avi's force film and TMPGenc's IVTC essentially result in the exact same thing, a 23.976fps progressive movie which is the best you can possibly get for ntsc encoding. dvd2avi obviously does it the fastest because its not actually doing a conventional IVTC, so if you can use this then do so...always. When you load your video in dvd2avi preview it and let it run past the logos, opening credits. If it says %95 or higher film than it is a perfect candidate for force film. If its consistently lower, keeps starting over at %0, or jumps from film to something else than force film wont work and you will need to do an IVTC in TMPGenc.

Now assuming what you say about the telecide filter is correct then I will explain the function of this. the force film and IVTC processes I just explained create an ntscfilm vcd, something that is completely compliant according to the standard but unfortunately a format that is not supported by all standalone dvd players. If your dvd player doesnt support ntscfilm vcds then you will need to deinterlace your movies before creating the vcd since vcds do not support interlaced material. So you need to create a sample disk if you havent already tested this.

If your dvd player does support ntscfilm vcds then what you need to do is always use force film if you can, if not then use TMPGen's IVTC. And of course if your dvd player doesnt support ntsc film vcds then you will need to either use a deinterlace filter or you will simply need to just pick one field or the other and encode that.