backups ..this could be the end.

[psx_pirate]

a new copy protection for dvd's and software could spell the end for making backups of your favourite movies/games

check it out here http://asia.cnet.com/newstech/security/0,39001150,39154620,00.htm

[p0rnLiME]

There will always come be a bigger fish... and always a sulution...

[BigGoof]

This sounds like it might work. They put errors on the disk that won't get copied when you make a duplicate. The software looks for the errors and if it doesn't find them, it chokes. A bit by bit copy might work, I don't know. It says they are fake scratches in a certain pattern so I don't know if you could copy that.

Interesting.

[chaihanajoe]

I remember the original Lotus 1-2-3 on five and a quarter inch disks had something very similar. Sounded foolproof. Wasn't.

[lechtin]

I'm not an expert on error correction, but seems to me the "force raw reading - write data uncorrected" option in Nero might work. Or someone will just reverse engineer the .exe not to even look for the disc as is commonly done to play games without having to load the CD.

[bugster]

using forced or fixed errors on a pressed CD as an error protection mechanism has been in use, and cracked, for quite a while. All thats different about this is how the game reacts when it 'detects' a non-original CD.

[jntaylor63]

Don't see this affecting the DVD back-up process if you go the main-movie only route.

1.) Strip the Audio, Video and Subs as one long, complete file.
2.) Use the output and author a new DVD

3.) As long as you can rip the DVD and the "fake scratch" data BS isn't inside the raw data, don't see a problem.

My bitch about this is that when they start this type of crap, it almost always has a negitive affect on the true owners. People will have problems playing on their standalone or PC players.

There was a new type of CD protection program that statred and many people could not play the disk. People got pissed and asked for their money back. One guy sued the record company for fraud and WON! Proved that he was not sold a true CD.

[bugster]

Don't see this affecting the DVD back-up process

I don't think this, or any other 'new' copy protection scheme can be used for any DVD-video (DVD-Rom maybe). A new DVD-video protection scheme would require the replacement of every single player in the world. As DVD has been such a huge success in the consumer market, esp in the last couple of years, I don't see this happenening in the immediate future.

[Gazorgan]

Won't work. It didn't work for floppies. Doesn't work for CDROMS :P

In case you haven't ever figured it out, DVD's have lots of errors. Put a dirty disk in you player....plays fine. Put the same disk in your DVDROM drive to rip it, and it barfs out. Tell your ripper to ignore errors and it rips fine.

Software has used this method for years. Some programmer spends 2 hours and cuts out that part of the code and Voila' , error free error checking.

Don't worry about it.

[Hoagie_one]

Furthermore, even if you cannot play games properly, all it takes is for a hacker to make a fixed EXE and the game stops looking for the errors all together.