TBC suggestions?

[LikeAChild]

I know there have been many posts regarding TBC's, but I'm looking to get a vcr with a built in TBC. So i was wondering if anyone could suggest certain models somewhere in the price range of $500 or less. Main thing i'm concerned with is getting the best possible video output quality with 10+ yr old vhs tapes.

Also, i had a question regarding dvd mpeg encoders. What is the best dvd mpeg encoder? I'm not concerned with how long it takes to encode, just the quality of the mpeg. I've tried tmpgenc and the adobe premiere 6.5 mpeg encoder.

Thanks.

[Bob W]

Here is one http://www.crutchfield.com/S-38lOkPgi10i/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?i=257HRS9911

The same VCR refurbished for half the price here http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3047981473&category=3318

[lordsmurf]

A guide for this topic exists on lordsmurf.com

[zanos]

I think it's kind of pointless spending that much for a vcr with a tbc built in. Unlesss I'm not mistaken you should get better results with a 100 dollar vcr and a sub 200 dollar standalone TBC or at the very least the same results for alot less money.

[davideck]

There's a good discussion of TBCs at;

tangentsoft.net/video/tbc1000.html

The DataVideo TBC-3000 is even better because it has video proc adjustments.

[lordsmurf]

I think it's kind of pointless spending that much for a vcr with a tbc built in. Unlesss I'm not mistaken you should get better results with a 100 dollar vcr and a sub 200 dollar standalone TBC or at the very least the same results for alot less money.

Not at all. Go use one. You'll be pleasantly surprised.

[FulciLives]

A lot of people have been having good results using the AVT-8710 TBC which can be found on the AV TOOLBOX website for $179.00 US Dollars.

The nice thing about this TBC is not only does it support both NTSC and PAL but it also will eliminate ALL forms of copy protections including not just MACROVISION but also CGMS/A which is making it a favorite amoung those that use a copy device that is sensitive to copy protection (such as the PANASONIC line of stand lone DVD RECORDERS).

Despite a lower price tag I know of at least two people that claim the AVT-8710 works better than the DataVideo TBC-1000 which normally goes for around $300 US Dollars.

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[zanos]

I think it's kind of pointless spending that much for a vcr with a tbc built in. Unlesss I'm not mistaken you should get better results with a 100 dollar vcr and a sub 200 dollar standalone TBC or at the very least the same results for alot less money.

Not at all. Go use one. You'll be pleasantly surprised.

I have a $200 jvc 7800u and it gives me hell when it comes to some videos I have. Like breaks in the picture, vertical jumping or even sometimes heavy ghosting but this is a rare one. I finally sucked it up and bought the AVT 8710 which I have yet to receive but I gotta assume this should fix all the things I described.

[lordsmurf]

I have a $200 jvc 7800u and it gives me hell when it comes to some videos I have. Like breaks in the picture, vertical jumping or even sometimes heavy ghosting but this is a rare one. I finally sucked it up and bought the AVT 8710 which I have yet to receive but I gotta assume this should fix all the things I described.

The source tapes are probably kibble. I have those experiences too with bad tapes. While it normally improves quality, a few rare situations with old tapes can make it appear to worsen the quality. Try the various filters in various combinations, and something should eventually work.