Pioneer A06 & burning 2x discs at 4x speed

[valian]

does any one know if i will harm the burner if I try to burn 2x discs ast 4x speed??

will the burner be ok & will the burn succeed??

cheers

[FT Shark]

It won't hurt the burner. However the burn probly won't work correctly. I would try it just to see.

[spiderman2k1]

I think you can break your burner. the AO3 and AO4 pioneer made new firmware so people can burn 4X media and burn it a 2X. With out the firmware update you can break your burner

[jnk76]

Actully if you are using a good software like nero or RN it will give you an error. It will test and make sure it can do it before hand. I have had a small amount of Riteks G04's burn @ 2X cause the software gave errors.

[Xtasy2002]

You are just asking for corrupt data if you burn faster than the rated speed of the media. If not now, then later for sure.

[valian]

Ok tried it.

It seems that there is either something in my burner software (dvdcopy) or the burner (A06) that knows the specs of the disc becasue even though I have the spped set to max, it stil burns at 2x

[nicw]

Fellas,

you have to understand the way this works. My program can assist you as it displays the speeds media can be burned at. Download it free at www.dvdinfopro.com

When a burning program is requested to write, it asks the drive for a list of write descriptors for the current loaded media. These are descriptors describing various speeds and write strategies for the media.

It is not possible to select a speed for a media other than those contained in the list of write descriptors, regardless of the speed the media was designed for, the particular drive must be aware of it and offer a suitable write descriptor, so you cannot choose a speed faster than the drive allows.

cheers
nicw
author dvdinfopro

[garryheather]

Regarding the Pioneer issue, IIRC their website says the problem occurs when the blank media is put into the drive - if you leave it in a "confused state" for any period of time, they could suffer a failure on the optical block.

If I do indeed remember that correctly, then burning the disc isn't the issue - technically you could bugger the drive before a write even took place.

Good to see NicW explaining a few things about how drives work, although he did forget to mention that if you bastardise your hardware with hacked firmware, those descriptors go out the window somewhat and some drives (ie the 4x ones in particular) will then allow you to burn that media at a speed well outside that which it was designed for - in some cases that will mean Coaster Central, so beware !

[musotechy]

Software/burner looks at the blank disc first to determine write speed.