Toast 6 and Backups

[jamerican]

I bought a copy of Toast 6 on Sunday and have just tested it with a backup of a movie (my own purchased DVD) done with DVD Backup and DVD2OneX and have noted a difference in the way V 6 does it from V 5.
When I drag the VideoTS folder into V 6 (under DVD Video) I do not get a folder nor can I create an Audio_TS folder. Toats 6 encodes the VTS and creates it's own menu, similar to the menu created on my Philips 985 recorder. I have not been able to access the extras from the original.
Maybe I am doing something wrong here, but it seems to me that Toast 5 did a much better job in that it burned the DVD Backup files as an exact copy of the original.
Anyone here used Toast 6 to create a full backup with everything available on it? Comments would be appreciated.

[jamerican]

Well, I figured it out. The folder has to be burned under the Data tab as a DVD-ROM (UDF). You can create the AUDIO_TS folder just as in V 5.xx. The finished product plays fine with everything intact.

[galactica]

Yep - you got it. Basically a DVD is very similar to DATA, except that there are none of those desktop/invisible files - Toast 5 just made this an OTHER option, but 6.0 now has it in the data option. Its nice, because that more of what it should be. Plus, now the dvd tab is for authoring dvd's which is AMAZING!

All in all its a very solid app, I'm very pleased.

[Mauserman]

did anyone try to make a svcd from a dvd in toast 6?

Is it even possible?

[galactica]

Is it even possible?

Anything is possible! I have not done it yet, but from the way it looks, you click VIDEO tab, choose Super Video Cd from the menu on the left, then pick your format and drag your mpeg file into the window then burn.

Again, have not done it yet, but it looks pretty simple.
when i get around to trying it, if you have not tried it yourself, ill let you know

[chikanakan]

Yep, that exactly how it works. Just select Video, add your files and select SVCD. Menus and buttons are done automatically. It's worked great for me.

[AntnyMD]

And the quality of the encoder is ... ?

[g4jedi]

FYI: A 2 hour MPEG2 file at 720x480 48Khz Audio 29.97fps takes almost 6 hours for Toast 6 to make a DVD.

[schwinn]

FYI: A 2 hour MPEG2 file at 720x480 48Khz Audio 29.97fps takes almost 6 hours for Toast 6 to make a DVD.

This was on an old slow iMac or perhaps a top of the line G5?? Details are important! thanks

[g4jedi]

Oh yeah... Sorry.

It was on a Dual 1 Ghz MDD with MacOS 10.2.6 with 1.5 GB of RAM.

The end result of the DVD worked fine on my DVD Player, but I don't know why it took so long. It did have to re-encode the video, but I don't know why. The file I made was up to DVD specs.

[chikanakan]

What's the source of the MPEG file?

[g4jedi]

The mpeg file is one I muxed myself. I started with an AVI of Star Wars (I own it on VHS). I converted it to a QT Movie with DivX Doctor, then exported it from QuickTime Pro as an .m2v and .aiff. Muxed with ffmpegX. I had to flip the audio channels since they were reversed in the original movie for some dumb reason. The funny thing is after the file was burned to DVD from Toast 6, the audio channels were reversed again. See this post for that issue:

https://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=175559

I'm wondering if I left the audio channels alone if after burning, they would be correct. ??? I'm not sure if I want to wait that long to find out though. I wish CaptyDVD would accept larger files. Sizzle is a POS! I have never gotten a good DVD out of Sizzle. A Sizzle DVD either wouldn't work in the Apple DVD Player or if it did work, my Sony couldn't fast forward the video. I made a DVD right out of ffmpegX one time but the video ran off the right edge of the TV screen (wasn't centered). Weird.

I tell you, making custom DVDs is a real pain in the ass.

[chikanakan]

My suggestion is to use the demuxed .m2v and .aiff. Add the .m2v to Toast and Toast will prompt you for the .aiff. Toast will then do the multiplexing for you. I personally have never had much luck with ffmpeg. You could even put the AVI straight into Toast and give it a try. It will have to be encoded, but the quality is pretty good from what I've seen.

[g4jedi]

I tried adding the AVI directly into Toast 6 and I got the spinning beach ball of death. I hadn't thought of just adding the .m2v into toast to see what would happen. I'll have to try that.

This stuff sure is friggin TIME CONSUMING! I need a quad-processor G5!!!

[galactica]

This stuff sure is friggin TIME CONSUMING! I need a quad-processor G5!!!

Dont we all! Just think though, if it works, this is perhaps the best way to do what you want with the least amount of hastle.

You can you just make your .avi into VIDEO_TS and then just burn it the way you always did before for dvd's
but toast 6 is new and cool (the idea of muxing, encoding, and then burning is a great idea!)

also, even though you have a "dvd" compliant mpeg it will still "encode" Think of it this way - you mount a dvd, you open the disk what do you see?? .mpeg? NO you see .vob's! so its converting your .mpeg into .vob
Its doing its job. 6 hours is nothing. Remember when VCD encoding took 48 horus!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (or perhaps you dont)

[g4jedi]

Ok, so how does one make an AVI into a VIDEO_TS?

[chikanakan]

If the AVI will play in QT, then it should work fine in Toast. If is not supported in QT, you'll need to converted with something else. Exactly what kind of AVI is it? Divx, 3ivx? Both work in Toast for me. M2V and AIFF is the best way.

One more trick is if your M2V and Aiff have the same name and are in the same folder Toast will add the audio automatically. So in a folder have movie.m2v and movie.aiff. Add movie.m2v and movie.aiff gets added. You can also use .ac3 for DVD. Toast will just pass the .ac3 through without any encode.