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  1. Has anybody tried these DVDR's out? What code do they have? Are they just bogus rename Princo crappy disc's, anybody have any information on them.
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    It depends on what burner your using. Most people that i know who have pioneer A04 or 05s, don't like the maxels. If you have a Pioneer, I would recomend the cheap, but excellent Ritek G03 1xs or the G04 4xs. If you have a Pioneer A04, then use the 2x upgrade from here: http://firmwares.co.uk/

    If you need the A05 firmware upgrade that will make Ritek G03 media burn at 2X, PM me and I'll ftp you the file.
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    Originally Posted by mysterio1
    Has anybody tried these DVDR's out? What code do they have? Are they just bogus rename Princo crappy disc's, anybody have any information on them.
    Tried them with a Toshbia sd-r5002 THEY ARE CRAP

    burns about 98% and errors.
    I think its drive specific with these disks.

    they dont work in mine, and ill never use them, but thats my superdrive. maybe they will work in yours, maybe not.

    im still waiting to see supermediastore.com credit me the purchase. I returned them using a RMA number and everything like they said to do, but still no credit!
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  4. Yup. I'm returning mine too. DRU500A and died with "end of disc-at-once error" (although the disc is totally readable).

    One thing is that it's totally gone from Meritline, I guess they realize these "Maxell" are no good.
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    I'll add my own data point to this discussion: Bought a 50-pack from Meritline. They are very uneven in my DRU-500AX (2.0f firmware). Some discs are so-so (they will play with a stutter here and there), others are complete crap. A friend with a Pioneer A04 also reported bad luck with them. I'm sticking with Verbatim and TDK for now. I've heard the Ritek -R's are good but the Sony is picky about burning them at 2X. I've been getting 4X Verbatim/TDK +R's for about $2 each from Best Buy (both appear to be Ricoh media, BTW). I'll probably stick with those until I hear about a better 4X media for the Sony.
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  6. I think they might be factory rejects.
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    Not sure where they come from but I had a 125 pack and they would not burn for crap on my 105, on the other hand a friend got a pack at the same time and has had great luck on his 105. I think it depends on if you get a good batch or not. I personally thing the factor reject thing might be the case.

    I had mine replaced with Riteks.
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    Fakes. My thoughts are Accu or LeadData in disguise.
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    Originally Posted by txpharoah
    Fakes. My thoughts are Accu or LeadData in disguise.
    Funny thing is the Accu's work fine (well at 1x only) and the Maxell's dont. I think they are just what you said, rejects that are trying to be sold as spindle'd unbranded media (since most people expect one or two to be bad when you buy them unbranded and on a spindle thats not even shrink wrapped!

    How true though for the pack to pack difference. My brother got a pack just before I did, when his were deliverd I ordered mine, his work! He has a Pioneer DVR-104 though, and I have a Toshiba SD-R5002. I just thought it was my burner, looks like its not!

    Problem is I did 10 burns and not a one worked. I have proof they received my return, thank goodness for delivery confirmation, just waiting to see if I acutually get my credit!

    My advice, stay away from these disks!
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  10. I cant believe people are having trouble with Maxells I thought their supposed to be a good, their probably rebadged princo's like I thought,
    Ill stick with old reliable Riteks even though the price keeps going up every month now. Never had a problem with them.
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  11. I too ordered these garbage Maxell's from Meritline. When I called to complain they were amazed that I had a problem. No one else had called them - RIGHT!!! At any rate its clear these are fake Maxells as per the many posts here and in other forums. The fact that these Maxells are now off The Meritline site says it all.

    I would advise anyone to avoid Meritline, as they should have known better than to be taken in by this scam. At the very least they should have immediately credited peoples account for the full amount when they returned the DVD's. I was charged a 15% restocking fee which is outrageous to be charged for returning bogus fake merchandise that doesn't work correctly.

    I spent 10 minutes going back and forth on the phone with them about this, and they refused to budge on the 15% restocking fee. They kept saying this was all news to them. In fact they didn't even want to give me a credit to my charge card, but a store credit. Finally after 10 minutes they agreed to credit my card, minus the 15% of course.

    I am in the process of charhing back the 15% restocking fee via my credit card, at the very least this will tie up their time responding to the charge and they will be hit for a $20 fee regardless of whether or not the chargeback is approved. I would advise anyone else to do the same if they were hit for a 15% restocking fee.

    And if the head of Meritline comes back on this forum posting under the name of "Meritline" I thiunk we all should ask him hard questions about why he was selling bogus DVD's, and then charging people a 15% restocking fee to boot to take back said DVD's.

    I also plan to go on Resellers.com and post my story, if others do the same maybe Meritline will not act this way in the future.
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  12. Check out Allmediaoutlet they have a deal on them, http://www.allmediaoutlet.com/P-DVD-R-2X-maxell.html
    I was going to buy them, after reading this post forget it, i just bought a 200pk of RITEK GO3's.
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  13. << Check out Allmediaoutlet they have a deal on them, http://www.allmediaoutlet.com/P-DVD-R-2X-maxell.html
    I was going to buy them, after reading this post forget it, i just bought a 200pk of RITEK GO3's. >>

    Wise choice, there have been countless posts about how Allmediaoutlet.com and Meritline and Supermediastore.com are one and the same.

    Meritline shared the same physical address with Allmediaoutlet and Supermediastore for a time, as many people reported shipments from all 3 companies were shipped from the exact same street address. At some point Meritline tried to distance itself from these 2 companies by shipping items from a different warehouse - but all these 3 companies are still located in the same city .

    Allmediaoutlet and Supermediastore are still selling these 2x Maxells. and I would avoid both of them for their practice of continuing to sell these bogus discs, even after its become widespread knowledge that the discs are fake. There isn't the slightest doubt in my mind that Allmediaoutlet Supermediastore will also charge a restocking fee for taking back the Maxells.

    It wouldn't surprise me if all 3 of these companies are run by the same person, and I can assure you none of these 3 will ever get any more business from me.
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  14. looks like many shops are now calling them "MediaPro 2X".
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  15. Has anyone had a GOOD experience with these? I've burnt about 6 movies on these disks, most of them going to about 4.3GB, and have not had a single problem with them. They all burn at 2x and all play back flawlessly.
    wtf?
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    Yes my friend got a 125 pack as the same time as me, his rock. I think it was just luck of the draw, there are some bad lots in there.
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    yes I did try some of them from meritline.com and they promised to me they are truly Maxell disc and without anyproblem, so I tried it and found out they are Maxell code indeed, but work sucks, I tried to returne it , but they refused it and still saying they are really Maxell. I called Maxell tech support (Larry) told me all of ecommerce companies out there such as supermediastore.com, meritline.com, blank-cd-dvdr.com, and many of them they are selling fraud product just like fake TDK before. And Maxell is in process of suit all these stupid cheaters. Warnning.... they are all from the same company and they change name around and suporrt bad!!
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    Jomo I ordered the same disc, meritline gave me no problems with the return. I simply told them that I was unhappy with the quality of them. There were zero hassels involved other then some extra time.

    Besides I don't think Meritline gives RMA info over the phone, you have to fill out their online form for one.
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    I tried a few samples of these this week along with a couple crap Memorex discs. Can't say they were better than the Memorex, because they had some of the same problems. Hiccups during play back. Only the Maxell's were ALL through the films.One of the Maxell's simply refused to play on any of my settops, but It'll play on my computer.I used Decrypter and Nero. Like the Memorex brand, the Maxell's are not recommended. I've had better luck with Riteks,Princos and Samsung Be Alls. No coasters or freezes,yet.
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    here is the email for maxell, you could send an email to the following address and ask for Larry to see whether or not like Meriltine.com, supermediastore, and whoever out there is saying they are selling true "maxell 2x product" whether or not it is fake one or real one, they will tell you the same what I am telling you. techsupp@maxell.com by the way, watch out meritline.com and supermediastore.com, they are switching to their house brand name call meritline 2x and supermdiastore 2x which is same as "fake maxell 2x" Be awared!!
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    I was just on the Meritline site, they no longer call them Maxell, they are now "High Quality" True 2x DVD-R.
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    Though I'm sure it is coincidence, I actually posted the suggestion a week or so ago that Meritline and others change the description away from saying Maxell to "House Brand", as we found out at work that the discs were fakes and returned the entire shipment for a full refund, as well as giving them a call to discuss the matter in detail. They opened themselves up to legal action, and Maxell is pursuing it from the rumors I've heard both in the office and a few places online.

    This reminds me that a few self-proclaimed "pros" on this site still believe these to be true Maxell media. I hope they're reading this. It's not just me coming across these facts and having these problems on this junk. Again, you get what you pay for.

    I think my company (actually, just the guys in budget) is finally convinced that saving a few pennies per disc isn't worth the delays this latest mess has caused. I've been telling them all along. But what do I know? I just lead the media department, I don't get to write the corporate checks. Those budget guys don't know a CD from a DVD from a pancake!
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    hey, give a try on this disc you will be happy in term of quality and they work just like ritek product, no funky game here!!

    http://www.shop4tech.com/user.htm?go=view_item&id=1317&cata=1&s_cata=
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  24. perhaps you should pick up the maxells at bestbuy instead (or use bestbuy.com) and use those, i have never had a problem with them and they are good media, I have the pioneer dvdr-104 burner. I have been seeing post on bogus maxells. So do not knock the actual maxell disc but get them from somewhere more reliable, so you know you are not getting a bogus disc under an assumed name
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    Originally Posted by jomo
    hey, give a try on this disc you will be happy in term of quality and they work just like ritek product, no funky game here!!
    http://www.shop4tech.com/user.htm?go=view_item&id=1317&cata=1&s_cata=
    Unless you plan to start paying Baldrick for all this shop4tech advertising, please shut up. You obviously work there or have some sort of kickback from them. Almost all of your posts are about buying from shop4tech, even if it has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the post.
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  26. Maxell's are fake. Check this out:


    "Maxell DVD-R ID code leaked by many Asian media manufacturers
    Monday, 23 June 2003

    Hitachi Maxell protested against many DVD-R media manufacturers of Hong Kong and Japan, for unfairly using the company’s recognition ID code in their own DVD-R media.
    The manufacturer recognition code is recorded metallic mold of each disc during the disc manufacturing process. The recorders read this code, and recognize the disc in order to maintain high writing quality.

    The company checked the quality of the specific media and revealed that it cannot be used for reliable reproduction and recording at 2x, as it was labeled on their package.

    Hitachi Maxell is expected to take serious actions against the companies that seems to make an easy profit by using the Maxell trademark by providing low quality products. "

    http://www.cdrinfo.com/Sections/News/Details.asp?RelatedID=3874


    You always take your chances when buying non retail unlabeled 'brand name' discs. If they can fake a well known brand such as Maxell, I'm sure they can fake Ritek or other media and you would not know the difference. (well of course until its too late).
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  27. Originally Posted by sidewinder33625

    "Maxell DVD-R ID code leaked by many Asian media manufacturers
    Monday, 23 June 2003

    ...revealed that it cannot be used for reliable reproduction and recording at 2x...
    Well, the quality is actually almost OK. Nero DVD Speed gives a nice curve with no drop, EXCEPT it poop'd at the end after the 4.xGB mark.
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