HELP BUILT A CHEAP AND FAST PC!!!

[jdegelde]

Try aberdeeninc.com, they sell high quality barebones systems at a reasonable price. You will need to use some of the peripherals from your existing machine to make a complete computer. I would check ebay for cheap video cards. I have a couple of 64 mb ram cards for sale if your interested about two years old though. However if video encoding is your primary concern video cards are irrelevant if they are less than 3 years old. I would also recommend an Intel P4 for video encoding speed I have both an Intel and AMD system and my AMD 1.3 ghz is very competetive with my 2.0 ghz Intel system for gaming but the Intel blows the AMD away for video encoding.

[Rond66]

Go to one these Computer Show.
http://www.marketproshows.com/visitor/search.asp

[LanEvo7]

He asked for a cheap system to surf the web and use office, thats what I gave him. Why do you need nforce2 for the applications he listed? Jacknit, I'm telling you right now, the stock cooler is not for overclocking, if you burn out your processor, don't blame anybody.

[jacknjt]

now i'm down to asus mobo
asus nforce or asus nforce2???? how much diff in price???
i'm gona get the amd 2200+ with crucial rams
and the case that lanvo said.

last decision is the which ASUS MOBO???

thanks all

[Piccoro]

actually the decision should be between Nvidias nforce2 chipset and VIAs KT400/333 platform. Dont even bother w/nforce. If someone said nforce, im sure they were meaning the nforce2 and just assume ppl know it.
Nforce2 is top of the line and depending on what features also come on teh board will be different prices. VIAs chip is good but costs a little less and is just as good in general apps, this may be better for you. If you want, you can save some money and go w/PC2100 memory. In my opinion for what you are doing, speed isnt going to improve things as much as total amount of memory in your system. I would put more money into size of ram rather than speed...a thought. MSI is also good board, could get a 80$ MSI nforce2 board and 2 PC2100 ram sticks of ur size choice and that would be good setup w/fast responding since you would be using dual memory. Its all what you value and where you are gonna put ur limited money into.

[jacknjt]

okay this's finally
if the MSI nforce2 has a sound and video built in i would get that. if not i'm gona have to go with the asus.

[h2dk]

Another option if you want a brand name w/ warranty...



hpshopping.com has a Compaq Presario s3000z for $319 after $50 MIR.

Athlon 2000+
256 MB DDR
40 GB HD
16x DVD/ROM
Integrated audio/video (AGP slot)
Windows XP

Not the greatest, but has room to upgrade in the future

[MikeV]

There are two versions of the MSI ans ASUS NForce2 motherboards. MSI K7N2G-L Video/sound/10/100 Lan/USB2.0 (about $120) MSI K7N2G-ILSR Video/sound/10/100 Lan/SATA/Firewire/USB2.0 (about $140) ASUS A7N8X sound/10/100 Lan/USB2.0 (about $120) ASUS A7N8X-Deluxe sound/ dual 10/100 Lan/SATA/Firewire/USB2.0 ($about $140) Check these sites: www.askacs.com and www.newegg.com Good luck, you are picking a good motherboard.

[LanEvo7]

Nforce2 is top of the line and depending on what features also come on teh board will be different prices. VIAs chip is good but costs a little less and is just as good in general apps, this may be better for you. If you want, you can save some money and go w/PC2100 memory. In my opinion for what you are doing, speed isnt going to improve things as much as total amount of memory in your system. I would put more money into size of ram rather than speed...a thought. MSI is also good board, could get a 80$ MSI nforce2 board and 2 PC2100 ram sticks of ur size choice and that would be good setup w/fast responding since you would be using dual memory. Its all what you value and where you are gonna put ur limited money into.

What difference is it going to make if all he is using the computer for is surfing the web, burning cds and using microsoft office? Its like buying a Porshe to drive in a school zone. Why is everybody telling him to spend an extra couple hundred dollars so he can get a system which will no way benifit him in doing those tasks.

[jacknjt]

okie lanvo this's wat i wanna get
Biostar M7VIG PRO Motherboard for AMD Socket A Processors 57bucks
AMD 2400+ $100bucks
crucial ram 512mb where can i get for cheap?
good and cheap case for this board????

it should come out to less than $250

[Airr]

A lil late in this topic, but here's a site I and a few friends have gotten good deals from (in the U.S.)

MainComp

They have an Athlon 1700+ system for $299.99 US.

[THE RIPPER]

The epox 8rga+ has onboard gforce 4 video and lan,usb 2.0,6 channell sound and firewire.You can get it at new egg for 139.00 .

[LanEvo7]

Just buy everything at newegg. Their prices are low and they have free 3 day shipping on most items.

[MOVIEGEEK]

okie lanvo this's wat i wanna get
Biostar M7VIG PRO Motherboard for AMD Socket A Processors 57bucks
AMD 2400+ $100bucks
crucial ram 512mb where can i get for cheap?
good and cheap case for this board????

it should come out to less than $250

www.crucial.com
enter "BBUSERGROUP"in coupon box and save 5%+free shipping.

[jacknjt]

alright thanks every1 for helping and being patients.
i know everything and where to get except for cpu. can someone give a direct link to a cpu between xp2000-xp2400 that comes with the manufacture FAN. cause i search on some websites they're OME cpu and never mension anything about THE FANS.

[LanEvo7]

Newegg, I've been saying that for the last couple posts. You have to look at the ones that say RETAIL.

[hwoodwar]

Jacknjt:

Going for the parts you specified, all from newegg I came up to $273 plus $13 postage (including a case.) I went with Newegg because they have very good prices, a good reputation and they do not inflate their shipping costs. Many of the "rock bottom" advertisers listed on Pricewatch have poor reputations and/or inflate shipping costs.

Case: Pro Source 522KU-B w/300W Power Supply, USB $25 + $13 shipping. $38 is a very good price for a reasonable case/power supply with shipping included. One of the other reasons I chose this case is that it has a backplate with the knockout for the network connection on the M7VIG Pro motherboard. Also, I like the physical design/look of the case.

http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduct.asp?DEPA=&submit=Go&description=522ku%2Db

CRUCIAL MICRON 512MB 64x64 PC 2700 DDR RAM - OEM $75 free shipping. I went with the PC2700 because it is backwards with DDR 2100 for this motherbooard and that way in the future if you upgrade, you may have a better chance of using this memory in another system. It was only a five dollar price difference. Crucial is quality, name-brand RAM there is no real place to get it at a significantly less price than the Crucial website. Newegg did have it for five dollars less than the Crucial site.

http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduct.asp?DEPA=&submit=Go&description=CT6464Z335

Biostar M7VIG PRO Motherboard $57 free shipping. The M7VIG Pro does not come with a backplate with the knockout for the network connection. I know. I have one. Be advised the M7ViG Pro is not an "overclocker friendly" motherboard. It does not have any way to manually set the multiplier, or increment the core voltage. The only thing you can do is increment the FSB. I do like the motherboard. It is a good "basic, all-in-one" motherboard.

http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduct.asp?DEPA=&submit=Go&description=m7vig+pro

AMD ATHLON XP 2400 /266 FSB PROCESSOR CPU - RETAIL $116 free. The retail version comes with AMD's stock heatsink/fan. There is only a five dollar difference between the retail (with the heatsink/fan) and the OEM (without the heatsink/fan) You can buy a different heatsink/fan later if you decide the retail one is not good enough, or you want to try to overclock.

The retail version is the second one listed at:
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduct.asp?DEPA=&submit=Go&description=ATHLON+XP+2400+%2F266



You might want to at least consider an inexpensive Nforce-2 motherboard. I found one for only $19 more than the M7VIG Pro:

Asus A7N266-VM AA (AMD Assured Version) NVIDIA nFORCE 220
$76 free shipping

http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduct.asp?DEPA=&submit=Go&description=A7N266%2DVM

[jacknjt]

thanks for ALL THE HELPS
i ordered what i needed.

amd 2400 retail 116bucks
asus nforce2 board 76bucks
crucial rams 2700ddr for 75bucks
Foxconn Super Case Model# PC-132 w/350W Power Supply 43bucks

TOTAL COST : $$$309 a little over my limit.


THANKS ALL AGAIN

[LanEvo7]

Umm, your missing two components that are crucial to your computer running, a video card and a hard drive. Unless, you already have a CD-Rom drive, I'd suggest you get one of those also.

[jacknjt]

aint the nforce2 asus has built in video card and sound card? i have an xtra cdrw and a hardrive at home. so i didnt ordered it.

http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduct.asp?description=13-131-433&DEPA=1

[LanEvo7]

Not all Nforce2 has a built in video. The one you listed doesn't.

[jacknjt]

►On Sale! Asus A7N266-VM AA (AMD Assured Version) NVIDIA nFORCE 220 Chipset 266/200MHz FSB Motherboard Micro ATX- Retail
Socket A AMD Duron, Athlon, and Athlon XP up to 2600+
Chipset: NVIDIA nFORCE 220D (IGP-64 and MCP-D)
FSB:266/200 MHz
2 DIMM sockets support max. 1GB unbuffered PC2100/1600 non-ECC RAM
Slots:3x PCI 1xAGP PRO 4x
Onboard LAN:10/100 Mbps
Integrated AC97and Dolby Digital 5.1 (AC-3) Encoder Audio
((Integrated Nvidia Nforce GeFORCE2 Video. )))
2 onboard USB ports

that is not it????? i thought it's integrated that mean i dont need to get a video card and can use the card already built in the BOARD.

is it rite????

[gmatov]

jacnjt and hwoodwar,
Are you guys aware that most of the OEM AMD, and, I would guess Intel CPUs come with a FULL 15 to 90 DAY, DEALER'S warranty.
You're telling javnjt to buy the "retail" CPU. Every site I go to that lists CPUs, lists a part or order number, and AMD for sure has "box" in the part number.
It comes with a fan/heatsink, with a serial number. More importantly, it comes with a 3 year warranty. Should it burn out, AMD will ask you for a FAN serial number. If you can provide it, OK for you. They, AMD, think their chosen fan is better than a Cooler Master, a Volcano, a piece of dry ice. This, logically, means the fan is also under a 3 year warranty.
I will be damned if I would buy an OEM for 5 bucks less, then go with the latest super duper fan, and find that the fan IS lifetime guaranteed, but incidental damage ( cooked CPU ) isn't covered. Too many builders, including the biggies, dicker the price of components down a few bucks, build you a system, and give you a 1 year warranty, the biggies, or less, and talk you into getting extended coverage, raising the delivered cost by a hundred bucks or more like 150 for 3 years.
And why the hell is some one who asks questions like a novice, maybe true, and maybe just stroking you guys to see what kind of dumb things you can suggest. I mean, he wants to build a SYSTEM for 300, and he gets suggestions to buy a 400 buck video card. Come on!!! And he wants to OVERCLOCK?
Try www.microtechcomputers.com , an Ohio company who go to Marketpro shows. They have a "barebones" I think 1800 XP 256 RAM, case Mother board w/video, audio, LAN, modem, sound. You add HDD, CD, floppie and OS. I think it goes 179.

[jdizzy40]

He said real cheap. If cheap is what he want cheap is what he gets. Check out the April 2003 issue of Maximum PC page 34. Source Walmart. The Lindows PC. For 200.00 bucks you get a VIA E-Series 800mhz cpu and a whooping 128 MB of PC-133 SDRAM all mounted in a mini ATX case with integrated video and sound. All components where pulled out of a time capsule buried somewhere in AZ. It has a 10GB hardrive and Lindows OS 3.0 installed. No AGP slot and one PCI slot. And it even comes with a keyboard, mouse and speakers. Now beat that all. I recommended once if not twice and save some real money to do it a little better, cause as sure as he gets it, he'll want to do this and then that and quickly he will find out his limitations. Bottom line. You will never turn a VW (Sorry VW fans) into a caddy or SUV. PS: if you buy the above system and take the side panel off, and can't find the motherboard, look behind the power supply. Yes its that small. And who in the hell developed Lindows? Doesn't support windows apps. Go figure.

[THE RIPPER]

►On Sale! Asus A7N266-VM AA (AMD Assured Version) NVIDIA nFORCE 220 Chipset 266/200MHz FSB Motherboard Micro ATX- Retail
Socket A AMD Duron, Athlon, and Athlon XP up to 2600+
Chipset: NVIDIA nFORCE 220D (IGP-64 and MCP-D)
FSB:266/200 MHz
2 DIMM sockets support max. 1GB unbuffered PC2100/1600 non-ECC RAM
Slots:3x PCI 1xAGP PRO 4x
Onboard LAN:10/100 Mbps
Integrated AC97and Dolby Digital 5.1 (AC-3) Encoder Audio
((Integrated Nvidia Nforce GeFORCE2 Video. )))
2 onboard USB ports

that is not it????? i thought it's integrated that mean i dont need to get a video card and can use the card already built in the BOARD.

is it rite????

Good thing you bought it at newegg,that board is based on the nforce1 chipset.

[jacknjt]

ohh i need help QUICK
i ordered the CRUCIAL DDR 512MB PC2700 but i dont know if the motherbaord Asus A7N266-VM gona supports it????????? please help quick before they send it out. THANKS. the asus said it compatible with 2100/1600

[LanEvo7]

Don't worry, PC2700 will be compatible with your system. It'll just run at PC2100. All Ram is backwards compatible if its the same type.

Stay away from that walmart system. The 800mhz VIA processor runs at speeds of about a 500mhz Celeron. Also Lindows is basically just Linux with some basic window functions. It CANNOT run all the programs that windows can. All in all, the thing is worthless unless all you really want to do is surf the web.

[xxiangg]

http://shop2.outpost.com/product/3625735


Looks like it has everything, except memory.

[dragonsau1988]

What is Front Side Bus?

[jdizzy40]

Tou're kidding right?