How can I put 2 movie converted with DVD2ONE on one DVD?

[BorgQueen]

I've converted 2 DVD movies using DVD2One- both being 2200MB. I want to put them both onto one DVD with a menu, so you can choose which to view. DVD2One leaves the files as VOBs and all my authoring programs want MPGs. (Except Nero, but that won't allow me to create a menu.) Do I have to convert the files to MPG, even though they're already the size that I want? Is there a program out there just makes menus?

What do I do?

[ghoster]

well since all you authoring porgrams takes mpeg you might try getting vobmerge it will make all you vob files on each movie into one great big vob file. then use tmpgenc and go mpeg tools load your vob file into simple de multiplex it will make a m2v file and mp2 file then you can go back to mpeg tools and go to simple multplex load your m2v and mp2 files and when thats done you will have mpegs.

[Megahurts]

BorgQueen

If you don't need a real menu then try this meheod.

Transcode the first movie to folder1 and the second movie to folder2. In folder2, delete the VIDEO_TS files then rename remaining files to VTS_02_X.XXX. Move all the files to folder1. Now you have a folder with 2 movies but you have to modify the VIDEO_TS.IFO file to recognise the second movie.

Load in VIDEO_TS.IFO file with IFOedit.

Select VMG_VTS_ATRT and change the 'Number of Video Title Sets' to 2.

Select VMG_PTT-SRPT and change the 'Number of Title play Maps' to 2.

Refresh the page and enter the following for Title2:
Title playback type = 20
Number of angles = 1
Number of chapters = XX
Title set number (VTS#) = 2
Title set Title-number (VTS_TTN) = 1

Select VMG_VTS_ATRT and change the following:
VTS_2: Number of audio streems in Title (VTSTT_VOBS) = number of sound tracks
VTS_2: Number of sub-picture streams in Title (VTSTT_VOBS) = number of subtitles

Select the VMG Overview page and Specify the audio tracks, and subtitles if any.

Click 'Save' then 'Get VTS sectors'.

The DVD will start with the first title. To select the second title, use the player remote and select title 2.

If you want more than 2 movies on 1 DVDR then let me know as it's a bit more involved.

Hope this helps.

Chas

[BerettaZ26]

MegaHurts, I kinda follow your guide on the two movies on dvd-r but it gets a little sketchy when i refresh the page after that I do get a little lost. Where am I editing the title 2? I was wondering however, do you know the method on how to combine 3 movies onto one dvd? How do i go about it? I'm assuming after all the research into this that I would need 3 pgc's controlled by the one main video_ts.ifo file? I'm not to sure if I'm on the right path or not but if you could explain how this is done it would be greatly appreciated. thanks

[sP1D3r]

BerettaZ26 ->
After you've selected VMG_PTT-SRPT and changed the 'Number of Title play Maps' to 2, click on VMG_VTS_ATRT for instance and change back immediatly to VMG_PTT-SRPT. This refreshed the page for me and allowed me to enter the values for Title Set 2 at the bottom.

If you want to have 3 DVD's on one DVDR you can check out my post over here: https://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=153117
That will work perfectly if you want to put 3 DVD's on 1 DVDR IF (always those damn "if's") the sound format is exactly the same for all 3 movies.


ghoster ->
Your method does seem to work, but what if I want to preserve 6 channel AC3 audio? I think demuxing and muxing will convert the audio to 2 channel MP2 audio.


Megahurts ->
Would you be so kind to check out my post at https://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=153117 and perhaps give your opinion? You seem very knowledgeable to me when it comes to merging multiple DVD's to one DVDR and perhaps you can help me out. Thanks in advance!


Regards,
sP1D3r

[Megahurts]

sP1D3r

Your method might work if you change the Number of audio streams (VTSTT_VOBS) to 2 on the VMG_VTS_ATRT page. Then goto the VMG overview page and specify VTS_1 Audio 2 and save. I haven't tried this but seems like would work.

The following is the method I use for multiple movies to 1 DVDR.

Use DVD2One to transcode each movie sepertely in its own folder (total not to exceed 4.36 Gig). In the second movie folder, rename all the VTS files to VTS_02_X.XXX and move them to the first folder. Do the same for the remaining folders but increase the number by 1. Now you will have a folder with x number of vob and ifo files. Open VIDEO_TS.IFO with IFOedit.

This example is set up for 5 titles but can be used for any number.

1. VMG_VTS_ARTR
a Zero out all the VTS_1: stuff
b VTS_1 Attribute start Byte = 28 (Titles x 4 + 8)
c End byte of VTS_ARTR Table = 3907 ((titles x 775) + titles -1 + step 1b)
d Number of Tittles Sets = 5
e Refresh page

2. Enter VTS_2: Attribute start byte = 804 ((titles -1 x 776) + step 1b)
Repeat for all VTS_X Attribute start byte titles and refresh page.

You should have 5 VTS_X Title sets with all zeros. If not then zero them out and refresh.

3. Enter the appropriate data for all the title sets
VTS Arrtibute end byte = 775
Number of audio streams = # audio tracks
Number of sub-picture streams = # of subtitles

4. Select VGM_PTT_SRPT and enter the following:
Title_X: Title playback type = 20
Title_X: Number of chapters = XX
Title_X: Title set number (VTS#) = number of VOB set
Title_x: Title set Title-number (VTS_TNN) = 1

5. Select VIDEO_TS.IFO and specify the audio and subtitle for each title.

6. Click Save then Get VTS sectors.

Step 1 must be done in the exact order, or IFOedit will crash.

All of your original audio tracks and subtitles will be selectable.

Any questions?

Chas

[sP1D3r]

Megahurts, first of all, thanks for your reply. It's higly appreciated.

I started following your instructions but got stuck at step 2.

2. Enter VTS_2: Attribute start byte = 804 ((titles -1 x 776) + step 1b)
Repeat for all VTS_X Attribute start byte titles and refresh page.

When I take the title # taken in the example (5) and use the formula I end up with a completely different result:

((5 - 1 x 776) + 28) = 3132

Is the formula incorrect or did you made a typo in the example result?

Also, for VTS3, do I need to apply the same formula? That would give all VTS's (except for VTS1) the same value.

Thanks for your help!

Regards,
sP1D3r

[Megahurts]

sP1D3r

Sorry for the confusion.

VTS_2 will be 804 ((second title-1 x 776) + step 1b). VTS_3 will be 1584 ((third title -1) x 776) + step 1b and so on.

VTS_1 = 28
VTS_2 = 804
VTS_3 = 1584
VTS_4 = 2360
VTS_5 = 3136

Each VTS attribute table uses 775 bytes, so we incriment the next start byte by 776.

So step 2 should read:

2. Enter VTS_2: Attribute start byte = 804 ((title# -1 x 776) + step 1b)
Repeat for all VTS_X Attribute start byte titles and refresh page.

Hope this explains it better.

Chas

[BerettaZ26]

Megahurts, I followed your directions exactly but right at the very end when i save the ifo, IFOEdit gives me an error message saying that "something is wrong ifo doesn't match endsector" and then it saves. I tried playing the dvd from my hdd with WinDVD and it wouldn't play is this due to the error i recieved when saving the ifo? Have you ever seen this before and if so, what steps to I take to correct it? Thanks in advance, B

[MadeInJapan]

You guys are all doing it such a hard way. First of all, there is no need to use DVD2One until the very end. Okay, here's what I do. I use DVD Decryptor to get just the Movie's VOB files. Next, I rename all VOB files, putting them in order in the same folder with last part of the numbers being 3 digits....ie: 001, 002, etc. Then I use VobEdit and load the first VOB file and then under "file" in this program, I select "Join Clips." After it joins all of the clips (all under 1Gig each), it will save the files with the right names...only 2 digits at the end. Next I use IFO Edit and select "Create IFOs." When this process is done, then use DVD2One and let it select what you want it to. Unfortunately without more editing with IFO edit you won't know the names of language files or if AC3/DTS, etc. or the language subtitles you want, as they just appear as Audio 1, Audio 2, Subtitle 1, Subtitle 2 etc. in DVD2One, so it's important to view the movies first to see what order these are in so you'll know which ones to select. Of course, if you want, you can edit the VIDEO_TS.IFO file, etc, with IFO Edit and give these language names before using DVD2One, but to me it makes no difference as I usually only select minimal language and subtitle files for the movies I put together anyway. This process has worked for me flawlessly many many times....good luck.

[sP1D3r]

MadeInJapan ->
The way you described does work, but not if you want to put 3 movies on 1 DVDR of which 2 of the 3 movies have AC3 sound and the 3th movie has a different sound format. You way will force the soundformat of the first movie on the DVDR over the entire titleset and thus the last movie (or the one with the different sound format) won't play any sound.

That's why we're trying to make a DVDR with multiple titlesets.


BerettaZ26 ->
Never seen that error message before so I have no idea how to fix it either. Are you 100% sure you didn't make a typo somewhere or perhaps applied a formula incorrectly?


Megahurts ->
I'm going to try it again with your updated instructions and will let you know if I run into any more problems. Thanks again!


Regards,
sP1D3r

[sP1D3r]

Megahurts ->
Sorry but it didn't work out for me. I followed your instructions carefully and didn't get any kind of strange error messages but while trying to play the DVD I'm only able to play the first titleset.

After examining the VIDEO_TS.IFO I noticed it does have 2 titlesets. Somehow both the software player (WinDVD) and my standalone player won't recognize the second titleset.

I have read somewhere that it might work when I re-author all the movies with DVDMaestro. Is this correct or would buying DVDMaestro for this purpose be a waste of money?

Thanks again for your great help!

Regards,
Spidey

[BerettaZ26]

sP1D3r

I got it to work I wasn't grabbing the VTS sectors "i think" either way tho it works great. thanks a bunch. Same goes for you Megahurts for the codes and the guide.

Btw? How did you guys learn how to do all of this? Through trial and error? I know thats usually how I learn most of my stuff when it comes to the pc. I figure if it ain't broke i'll try to fix it.

Thanks again guys.

BerettaZ26

[sP1D3r]

Great to hear you got it to work BerettaZ26.

I'm still stuck.. Heheh.. I just can't seem to get Megahurts' method to work..

Also tried DVDMaestro in the meanwhile but it doesn't accept the demuxed AC3 files of the movies.. Grin..

However, I'm a bit further now:

- took the 3th movie (the one with the different sound format).
- Demuxed it.
- Encoded the MPEG-1 2 channel audio to AC3 6 channel audio.
- Muxed it.

Then I prepared everything again (VTS_01_x.VOB style, not multi titleset) and WOW!, it worked..

Only one problem.. Heheh.. When playing the last movie it suddenly skips back to somewhere in the middle of the 1st movie.. Gosh..

After examining the VTS_01_1.IFO I noticed the times are all messed up.. Tried to "Get VTS sectors", tried to "DVD2ONE" it again and I tried to manipulate the frames and sectors in order to adjust playing times myself but nothing worked..

Heheh.. Getting bummed at the moment..

Isn't there some kind of program out there which will just let me import the VOB files into titlesets I want and create IFO's from there? Would save a whole lot of time..

[MadeInJapan]

Oops sorry guys....now, I understand what you're trying to do. Haven't had a need for it yet, but I may some day. One way I could think of to do what you want to do it to demux and remux all into same compliant MPG2s and then use something like SpruceUp, but that sounds like a bunch more trouble than it's worth compared to your method. Anyway, sorry for not having the answers....maybe next time

[Megahurts]

sP1D3r

Just tried the 3 movie DVD in WinDVD and you're right, it only showed 1 title. However it works on all 4 of my DVD players. Another problem to figure out.

If you use the button on the remote that allowes you to jump to chapters, it should display the title playing and number of titles on the disk. Navigate to the title section and select title. All players are different so I don't know which button to use on your player.

BerettaZ26

Glad to be of help


Chas

[sP1D3r]

MadeInJapan ->
It's alright.. It's highly appreciated you have thrown your cents in the circle.. It might've not be the entire solution, but it can bring other people spin-off idea's which might actually work.. So all input is appreciated..

Megahurts ->
When I used your method I went as far as testing it on WinDVD and that's where I discovered it didn't work.. Never went as far as actually burning it to a DVD+RW and testing it on my stand-alone player as I figured that if it didn't work in WinDVD it wouldn't work on my stand-alone either..

As I'm actually trying to get it to work on my stand-alone player (and couldn't care less if it would run with WinDVD) I will try your method again and burn it to test it on my stand-alone player.. If that works, I'm happy.. Nevertheless I'm going to dig deeper and see what's causing WinDVD to go havoc with the disc.. Any help is ofcourse appreciated..

Thanks again! I'll let you know if it worked on my stand-alone..

Regards,
sP1D3r

[Megahurts]

sP1D3r

Bad mistake in the guide. Step 4 should read as

4. Select VGM_PTT_SRPT enter Number of Title play Maps = 5. Refresh and enter the following:
Title_X: Title playback type = 20
Title_X: Number of chapters = XX
Title_X: Title set number (VTS#) = number of VOB set
Title_x: Title set Title-number (VTS_TNN) = 1

WinDVD does recognize the multiple titles.... it was reading a VIDEO_TS folder with 1 movie on my HDD.

Let me know what happens.

Chas

[sP1D3r]

Hi Megahurts,

I noticed the "Title play Maps" and changed it the last time..
However, WinDVD still didn't play or recognize the second title set.. My stand-alone player DOES recognize a second title set but when I select it the player hangs and keeps seeking..

Could this also be a problem with the source movie?
Perhaps I should try a different movie and see if it's the current second movie that's making it all go bad..

Regards,
sP1D3r

[sP1D3r]

Well, it's not the source movie.. Tried it with a different movie and had the same results..

While I checked the IFO (created by IFOEdit) of the final project I noticed that both VTS_01_1.VOB and VTS_02_1.VOB had the same VOBID's.. Is this allowed?

Also, I tried demuxing the movie into a m2v and an AC3 file to re-author it with DVDMaestro but both DVDMaestro and SoftEncode is not able to load the AC3 file. Gives me an error message the structure is not correct.. This thing is getting stranger by the day..

Regards,
sP1D3r

[Will Bailey]

Next I use IFO Edit and select "Create IFOs." When this process is done, then use DVD2One and let it select what you want it to.

I used this method but IFO Edit creates IFO and BUP files saying my VOBs contain 247 chapters (!), which is not the case. Do you know what could I do to solve this problem?

[Megahurts]

sP1D3r

Check your private messages.

Chas

[MadeInJapan]

I believe there is a setting in IFOEdit to create chapters every so many minutes. Maybe it is set to every 30seconds or so for you? I'm not sure, but seems one of the pieces of software I use has this as an option...poke around....but as someone else pointed out, my way of doing things only works if the same Audio type file is used for 2 movies, and I believe the same aspect ratio, so don't follow my guide unless you have that as a prerequisite with my method.

[MadeInJapan]

Too bad you can't load up already made VOB files into SpruceUp. If you could do this, then each movie set of Vobs could be separate selectable titles at a main menu screen. I know SpuceUp Makes the correct structure from in-putted MPG2 files....to make compliant VOBs and VTS files, etc., so, we would actually being doing half of SpurceUp's work for it if we could load the VOBS into it. Anyway...just some food for thought.

[Will Bailey]

I believe there is a setting in IFOEdit to create chapters every so many minutes. Maybe it is set to every 30seconds or so for you?

Actually I found out that "247" was the total number of "Cells"...that's where it's weird.
Let me explain (NB: all of my 5 VOBs have the same aspect ratio and the same audio encoding -- it's actually the same concert splitted on 2 DVD-Rs). I followed your method step by step and as I said before, when I played the VOBs in WinDVD it indicated more than 99 chapters -- 247 in IFOEdit. I found that too weird so I deleted the IFO and BUP files in the folder where my new VOBs are (those modified with VOBEdit, etc.) to replace them with the original IFO and BUP files from the 1st DVD-R.
When I played the VOBs in WinDVD this time it indicated 23 chapters -- like the 1st DVD, obviously -- and I could almost see the end of my 5th VOB but I would need one or two more chapters (and cells). So I checked again IFOs created with your method in IFOEdit and I found out I had 247 cells...and 247 chapters. I searched all day on this forum and on the internet without finding an solution to my problem -- if there is one. I don't know exactly how to solve this but in IFOEdit when you Create IFOs, you can choose: "Create Chapter for each Cell" or "Create Chapter for 1st Cell only of each PGC" -- I didn't see any option allowing to create chapters every n minutes...

In my case if IFOEdit creates a chapter for each cell, I end up with 247 chapters. If I choose the other option I just got one big chapter. I also tried switching "Create 1 PGC Only" to "Create a PGC for each new VobID" but it didn't solve my problem...I'm still searching and I'll let you guys know if I find a solution. Meanwhile, if you have any suggestion, please go ahead!

[Will Bailey]

Btw, MadeinJapan, someone talked about a software called NeoDVD that could load VOBs we created to make a menu and so on. It was in a topic I created a couple of days ago.

I'll try that and I'll let you know. You can find more info here: http://www.mediostream.com/products/index.html

[MadeInJapan]

Thanks Will...I do appreciate that. This software would be very helpful!

[Will Bailey]

I FINALLY found a solution to my problem while fooling around in IFOEdit!!

It could be very useful to people experiencing my problem using Made method -- which is the most popular method out there, if I refer to Google searches. My problem was that while I tried to create the new IFOs for the VOBs modified with VOBEdit, IFOEdit did something weird and created 247 chapters, which was the total number of cells for my VOBs. Having 247 chapters -- instead of 25 in my case -- kinda sucks so maybe you want to solve that problem.

A few changes in your IFO files in IFOEdit will do the trick.

- Open your newly created VIDEO_TS file in IFOEdit and select VMG_PTT_SRPT. Change your "Number of Chapters" to the required number (25 in my example). There's nothing else to change here so just click on Save and exit IFOEdit
- Open your new VTS_01_0 file in IFOEdit and select VTS_PGCITI then VTS_PGC_1 under that.
- You'll have to do the main changes on that screen: change the Number of Programs to the right number (still 25 for me). Scroll down to PGC Program Map and here you'll see like 250 "Program_n" (in my example) with a Value (dec) set as "1" for each one.
- Leave the Program_1 value as 1, change the Program_2 value to a bigger number (depending on how many cells you actually want to see in every chapter -- I wanted to have 10 cells of about 30 sec. each in my example), 11 for instance. Increase by 10 for every Program (Program_3 value = 21, Program_4 value = 31, Program_5 value = 41, etc.). If you had 247 programs for instance, you'll have to stop at Program_25 value = 241.
- Each Program will be a chapter on your DVD. So now you've got 25 correct programs -- forget about the others. Normally you won't have to change anything else in this file. Click on Save and exit IFOEdit.
- Check if your changes were correct by playing the VOBs in WinDVD for instance before you burn your DVD.

This problem might be rare but it could be useful to those who face the same issue with their DVD.

[MadeInJapan]

Good work...I knew I remembered there was a way to change chapter lengths in IfoEdit...just couldn't recall exactly where. You found it...you're de MAN! I copied your post to WORD and added it to my other "how to" files for future reference. Thanks!

[sP1D3r]

Megahurts ->
I don't see any messages in my Private Messages. Perhaps you sended it to the wrong person..

Anyhow, I finally managed to do it.. I used AC3Fix on the "broken" AC3 files which apparently had a few frames broken.. After fixing them I was able to import them into DVDMaestro.. This allowed me to re-author the entire DVD (with multiple tittlesets, multiple aspect ratios & multiple sound formats) as I wanted to..

Wow.. It's been quite some work, but the end result is worth it to say at the least.

Thanks everybody, (And especially Megahurts) for helping me out a great deal!

Regards,
sP1D3r