How to move mpeg1 to dvdr without converting to 48khz ???

[nerys]

I have a Hitachi mpeg10w Camcorder. it records direct to mpeg1 via a pcmcia hard drive.

I want to put this mpeg1 file directly onto a DVD WITHOUT converting anything. I know dvdr can do mpeg1 but not mpeg1 vcd audio (44khz) it needs 48khz.

Converting the audio is a no go (would take an eternity as I have some 5 years worth of video shooting to work on)

The video is not even totally VCD compliant (the audio is 33khz mono) but I can tell nero to ignore this and burn it anyway and it works just fine. I want to use DVD-r as it can hold at least 7 times more video than a CD.

I am confident if I can get it to record the file dvd players will play it just fine. I just need a way to MAKE some program do it. Here is what I am looking for.

1 a program that will let me force it to accept the file as is WITHOUT any conversion etc.. and burn it anyway (like nero does with vcd's)

2 a program that will "tweak" my files to trick the program into THINKING it is a valid 48khz mpeg1 file. so that it will take it and let me burn a dvd-r using it again without converting the file.

I have something like 80 gigs of home videos. that is why I am unwilling to convert the audio. Plus I tried to convert one. not only was it a pain in the ass but the file was no longer compatible with my other hardware that is mpeg1 specific (cd and hard drive based portable players etc..) IE I would have to keep 2 copies of all my files which is unacceptable.

Suggestions ?
Chris Taylor
http://www.nerys.com/

[ChrissyBoy]

I think ifoedit does this but there is a lot of doubt about compatability

https://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=142742&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=

[SHS]

Chris what your asking for is not possable due to way CVD/DVD vs VCD/SVCD work diff from each other.
I think all you have to is demultiplex and convert the audio it self to 48KHz and remultiplex audio and video back.
Ifoedit will not help you here with your problem.
So you only have one opton here and to convert or stick with CD disk.

[Vejita-sama]

Actually IFOEdit can do this, but the thing is only for ONE video file (and you still have to de-mux first).

You're best bet is to get all files on HD, run a batch mode de-mux, a batch audio converison, then re-author to DVD. It'll take time but you don't have to sit there and watch it all run.

[nerys]

What I want is a way to Spoof the conversion so the program thinks it already is 48khz OR a program that will let me ovveride it and make it take the 44khz file anyway.

Conversion is simply not am option. it would take forever !! (literally weeks in actual time working to do all of my files) and then Like I said it is not an option because it would mandate me keeping TWO copies of all my files. that would require me to have well over 200gigs of space just for my movies.

I am confident that if I can get the files onto a legiti dvd (IE force or spoof the program into accepting them as is) that the dvd player would play them without a problem. I have forced vcd programs to take some whacky files and every time the dvd players have read them an played them just fine.

Chris Taylor
http://www.nerys.com/

[nerys]

Please don't misunderstand but saying it is impossible is illogical.

Mankind created what I am doing therfore I can make it do anything I want it to do so long as I can figure out how to do it.

Now whether it will work is the question. Can I put mpeg1 vcd compliant files on a DVD-R YES. that is not in questions. I know I can. I have the mpeg1 files and I have the DVD-R one is data the other holds the data. period.

the problem is software is designed to deny me doing this because it is technically not withing dvd-r specification.

This is fine. I want to override this. I want to bypass this restriction or denial. I want to say So what do it anyway and I will take my chances.

Like nero lets me do with VCD.

Technically 33khzmono sound in a mpeg1 file is not possible on a VCD. nero LETS me say TOUGHT do it anyway and what do you know I got lucky and it plays just fine. (tried over a dozen dvd players and everyone plays it just fine.)

Conversion is not an option. Not only would it take FOREVER to do but I would then have to store 2 copies of every file I have. Do the math. 300gig times 2.

I tried converting 7 hours of content to dvd compliance. IT works great. it really worked nicely. But it also took 5 freaking hours !! (and I am running a 2.8ghz P4 with a gig of DDR ram)

thats 4.2gig of data taking 5 hours to process. so to convert 300 gigs of data (and it gets large every weekend as I shoot more video and I easily shoot 2 hours (2gigs) of data when I go out

Doing some basic math it would take me at least 357 hours or nearly 15 DAYS of continious converting. Not only is that insane but I do not have another 300gigs of space to store the converted files (since I would never want to have to do it again yet I still need the original format files for my players)

I want to put these files on a DVD-R dvd specifications rules be damned. I will take my chances as to whether it will be compatible or not. I will take that chance. I am confident they will play just fine.

There is nothing logical or physical keeping me from doing it. the only thing keeping me from doing it is some code some programmer decided to put into software. had that programmer chosen NOT to do that then I would be burning dvd-r's with my files right now and finding out whether they would work or not.

I want to either put my files on dvd-r ovverriding the specifications limitations OR spoof the files to LOOK like 48khz so that DVD software will THINK they are proper files and burn then without conversion.

If a dvd player will play a 44khz vcd that actually has 33khz files on it then a dvd player can also play a 48khz dvd that has something other than 48khz.

I want to try it and then take my chances. the worst it will cost me is the 1.5 hours it takes to burn the dvd-rw which I can always reuse anyway.

Chris Taylor
http://www.nerys.com/