DVD+R or DVD-R??????

[orbital517]

What do you guys think will be the "standard" in the future? Or do you think that there will continue to have two different types of media forever? I have a DVD+R burner and have noticed that DVD-R media is MUCH MORE easy to find and is normally cheaper compared to DVD+R media. Why is this?

[jacknjt]

it all depend on where u live.
i can find more dvd+r than dvd-r.
also dvd+r has no problem with compatibility like ppl said.

[wizdawg]

-r are harder to find in stores, but i thin thats cause that is what people buy. if i got a burner that supported on the + or - format, i think id probably go with the -. or dont worry about it and get a dual format burner

[dcsos]

Everytime someone raises this question I hav'ta ask myself
DO THEY KNOW THE DIFFERENCE between the two formats?

DVD-R : out first, more in place in the market and designed for
DVD VIDEO use.

DVD+R : less compatible with the 'out there' base of players-
but a better format for DATA STORAGE,
while retaining the ability to do DVD VIDEO as well.
This is because when you write a +R you don't need
to finalize the disc, and you can add files later until you reach
full storage capacity. Ifyou're only gonna make DVD-VIDEO,
this feature may screw you up and produce coasters
if you forget to check "FINALIZE"on a +dvd video volume.

Both formats media are well available and in huge quantities anywhere

[orbital517]

Thanks dcsos. I was not aware that DVD-R is better for DVD video compared to DVD+R. I also didn't know that you can continue to write until the disc is full only on the +R............Do you think that in the near future, that most companies and DVD players go with the +R format? Or do you think there will always be both? I'm thinking that one of the formats will become extinct as most companies will start supporting one over the other.

[Jester700]

Everytime someone raises this question I hav'ta ask myself
DO THEY KNOW THE DIFFERENCE between the two formats?

DVD-R : out first, more in place in the market and designed for
DVD VIDEO use.

DVD+R : less compatible with the 'out there' base of players-
but a better format for DATA STORAGE,
while retaining the ability to do DVD VIDEO as well.
This is because when you write a +R you don't need
to finalize the disc, and you can add files later until you reach
full storage capacity. Ifyou're only gonna make DVD-VIDEO,
this feature may screw you up and produce coasters
if you forget to check "FINALIZE"on a +dvd video volume.

Both formats media are well available and in huge quantities anywhere

My only quibble is your assertion of +R as "less compatible". It seems to me that though that may have been true at one point, they're pretty much equal these days.

[Bob W]

DVD+R for sure costs more than DVD-R so that is the only reason I buy DVD-R.

[-jsl-]

dcsos: Well you obviously don't know the difference... DVD+R needs finalizing and you can not add more data to DVD+R (not if you burn in DVD Video compatible mode at least, data can be burnt in multisession).
The major difference between DVD-R and DVD+R is the technology used for addressing the sectors during the burning. The final discs have very similar properties and compability.

[DoubleShadowIce]

If you are not aware of Microsoft joining the DVD+R/RW Alliance in recent months, I think this is a good read. http://www.emedialive.com/news/2003/0324_2.html

I guess Microsoft had more better reasons to be on one side than the other.

[dcsos]

"DVD+R needs finalizing and you can not add more data to DVD+R "
-JSL

WRONG

DVD+R can be added to in DATA MODE..as I said above.

Its only in the DVD VIDEO MODE you need to finalize-BOTH FORMATS

please read the posts more carefully

[-jsl-]

Ok I apologize for that but I thought DVD-R was capable of burning multisession (or incremental recording) too?

Anyway finalizing is made automatically if you don't burn a data multisession disc (at least in the software i tried) so there is no risk of "forgetting" that.

[glm1051]

Everytime someone raises this question I hav'ta ask myself
DO THEY KNOW THE DIFFERENCE between the two formats?

DVD-R : out first, more in place in the market and designed for
DVD VIDEO use.

DVD+R : less compatible with the 'out there' base of players-
but a better format for DATA STORAGE,
while retaining the ability to do DVD VIDEO as well.
This is because when you write a +R you don't need
to finalize the disc, and you can add files later until you reach
full storage capacity. Ifyou're only gonna make DVD-VIDEO,
this feature may screw you up and produce coasters
if you forget to check "FINALIZE"on a +dvd video volume.

Both formats media are well available and in huge quantities anywhere

Thank you, I finaly got an answer to this question. I knew which one had come first, but did not know about the design differences. Here is something interesting though> When I make a copy of a dvd with dvdxcopy and use dvd+r it works fine on my dvd player, but if I make a dvd of MPEG2 files authored in Ulead dvd workshop the dvd+r is no longer working on my dvd player, but dvd+rw works as well as dvd-R all of this using somy dru 500.
ANy ideas as to why?
Gui

[dcsos]

JSL wrote "I thought DVD-R was capable of burning multisession"
You are partially right in that they have come up with a way to compete
with the +R in the SOFTWARE DOMAIN..
The ability you speak of is like or analogous to the SOFTWARE TRICK THAT EZ CD CREATOR USED in 1995 to make it possible to incrementally write a CD-R as if it were a CD-RW ..this software for CD writing is called "INSTANT CD"
THE THING THAT NOW MAKES DVD-R owner able to sorta incrementally write is called DLA or DRIVE LETTER ACCESS by veritas.. I don't think it really works too well (my experience using once) but others can post and let me know..

THANK YOU JSL for pointing out that the software greys out finalize preventing a mistake I theorized wrongly about in my previos post.

GLM: Do you have an JVC? (i dindn't look at yer specs) but my friend has same unexplained 'NON-DVD+R' read in his JVC while my cheapo APEX plays all. He find that commercial rips to DVD+R have probs. while self authored (your own VIDE0_TS on the DVD+R) makes it readable in the JVC somehow..Go figgure..when we get all these kinks ironed out..the Blue Ray disc will be affordable and we'll be trying to figgure out its compatibilities..
I bet one of the applications will make the DVD+R's playable for you as well as the +RW's ..TRY NERO AGAIN- not in the usually more friendly DVD-VIDEO MODE- but in the less used -but also DVD authoring compliant -"UDF 1.02MODE"

and JESTER you're right any minor compatibility prob. with + is gone or going away fast