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[haq202]

hmm i seem to have missed a large chunk of this debate since my last posting ... i would just like to add two things ...

sefy in your response to my earlier post - this may suprise you but there are a large number of muslims (and i mean alot) who are not arabs ....

secondly the jihad is not a war against other religions no matter who or what told you that ... it has been misinterpreted by certain so called islamic groups for thier own purposes as d_hitman pointed out.... because believe me if it was the world would be a whole lot different....

[Sefy]

I'm not expecting anything from an Arab, you have the best diplomatic people, you can shoot someone right infront of them, and say, oh we are sorry, we didn't mean too, don't blame all of us for the actions of few, please don't bomb our cities cause thusands of innocents will die, well, gee, your terrorists really cared about those in the Twin Towers and in the Pentagon and all those in the planes, and god knows how many more.

Well, isn't it amazing you are alive ? if Israelis didn't warn you to get out of your buildings, besides, Israel NEVER attacked civilians, Paletinans BUTCHER AND MURDER civilians! and again, what the hell does a 6 year old doing on a BATTLE GROUND ??? and I believe me on what's going on on Israeli TV, then SEEING what your school's teach! so don't tell me bullshit! you can deny as much as you like, but the TRUTH IS OUT THERE!

tss tss tss, if some Arabs did something bad, we shouldn't punish them all, oh no, god forbids that the USA will blow all the Terrorists to smitherins, oh no, there could be innocent children being taought how to murder as I just SAW on BBC World training RIGHT now for WAR!

Throwing rocks, oh and if I through a ROCK at your head, that won't kill you ? and what about all the GUNS our stupid government GAVE YOU! and yes, Soldiers are trained to die for their country, in a time of WAR!!!! your bloody murderes butchered UNARMED soldiers!!! 100 Bloody stinking Arabs LYNCHING!! only Arabs can commit such crimes, no other nation can do so! you Arabs have no morals!! your bloody murderes are in our jails getting food and a place to sleep!

If you have any respect for human lifes, you wouldn't be butchering like cowards!!! you don't want peace, you want terror, and god I hope you get it!! for once all the world will keep you Arabs quiet! and if you really are humans, then YOU should be prosecuting your OWN terrorists!! NOT celebrate the deaths of thusands on thusands of INNOCENT people! and you should give those leaders of yours and surrender them for punishment!!

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[haq202]

sefy,

they say 50,000 people worked in those buildings do you think that the terrorists gave any muslims working there the chance to get out.

and it does seem as though you are as brainwashed as those terrorists were to hate a whole race/religion for the actions of a few.

[Sefy]

haq202, did you see the count of deaths from all countries ? have you seen a single Muslim working there that died ? I still haven't seen any, i've seen from Japan, Australia, Britan, Israel, and lots of others, but I haven't seen any Arabs.

And if you think i'm Brainwashed, I suggest if you can take the next plane flight, and see for yourself what the Arabs are REALLY doing, and then will see who will be brainwashed, you see for your own eyes what they are doing, and you will be so shocked, you will be sick to your stomach of what they are capable of!

Dark Knight has just served as an example for the worst Arab, not only he doesn't condem those actions, but he seems to be gloating, smiling and approving of them, and that is almost worse then the whole tragedy itself!
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[haq202]

arabs??? i said muslims mate not arabs .. yes arabs are muslims but if you think that they are the only race of muslims on this planet then you really want to ask yourself if you have been brainwashed ...

there are a huge number of NON ARAB muslims in this world

[Sefy]

I Know there are plenty of races who are muslim, but have you seen Japanese who are Muslim, or maybe Americans who turned to Muslim, and how about Chinese and others commit such hurrible actions against any nation, like the Muslim ARABS ? Palestinians ?? that's why I keep saying Arabs, i'm not Brainwashed, you just refuse to see the truth, cause it's too painful for you, so you are trying to deny it.

[incognito]

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On 2001-09-12 20:40:05, plut.O wrote:
I'm sure many have read this, but for those who haven't.
This, from a Canadian newspaper, is worth sharing.

America: The Good Neighbor.

Widespread but only partial news coverage was given recently to a remarkable editorial broadcast from Toronto by Gordon Sinclair, a Canadian television commentator. What follows is the full text of his trenchant remarks as printed in the Congressional Record:

"This Canadian thinks it is time to speak up for the Americans as the most generous and possibly the least appreciated people on all the earth.
Germany, Japan, and, to a lesser extent, Britain and Italy were lifted out of the debris of war by the Americans who poured in billions of dollars and forgave other billions in debts. None of these countries is today paying even the interest on its remaining debts to the United States.
When France was in danger of collapsing in 1956, it was the Americans who propped it up, and their reward was to be insulted and swindled on the streets of Paris. I was there. I saw it. When earthquakes hit distant cities, it is the United States that hurries in to help. This spring, 59 American communities were flattened by tornadoes. Nobody helped.
The Marshall Plan and the Truman Policy pumped billions of dollars into discouraged countries. Now newspapers in those countries are writing about the
decadent, war mongering Americans. I'd like to see just one of those countries that is gloating over the erosion of the United States dollar build its own airplane. Does any other country in the world have a plane to equal the Boeing Jumbo Jet, the Lockheed Tri-Star, or the Douglas DC10?

If so, why don't they fly them? Why do all the International lines except Russia fly American Planes? Why does no other land on earth even consider putting a man or woman on the moon? You talk about Japanese technocracy, and you get radios. You talk about German technocracy, and you get automobiles.
You talk about American technocracy, and you find men on the moon - not once, but several times - and safely home again.
You talk about scandals, and the Americans put theirs right in the store window for everybody to look at . Even their draft-dodgers are not pursued and hounded.

They are here on our streets, and most of them, unless they are breaking Canadian laws, are getting American dollars from ma and pa at home to spend here.



When the railways of France, Germany, and India were breaking down through age, it was the Americans who rebuilt them. When the Pennsylvania Railroad and the New York Central went broke, nobody loaned them an old caboose. Both are still broke. I can name you 5000 times when the Americans raced to the help of other people in trouble. Can you name me even one time when someone else raced to the Americans in trouble? I don't think there was outside help even during the San Francisco earthquake. Our neighbors have faced it alone, and I'm one Canadian who is damned tired of hearing them get kicked around. They will come out of this thing with their flag high. And when they do, they are entitled to thumb their nose at the lands that are gloating over their present troubles. I hope Canada is not one of those."

Stand proud, America!


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That was actually a radio broadcast in 1973, right at the
vietnam war. It's very famous.

Go to http://www.google.com and do a search on "Gordon Sinclair"
The original text is even more scathing that this slightly
edited version.

[haq202]

actually there are a fair number of americans who are muslims (and thats not including the nation of islam - you do know of them dont you , malcolm x ring any bells)
also most malaysians are muslims, france is full of white muslims as well as black , japan and china have a lot more than you would know .... britain ...well there are only the odd million here ....

and if there was not one muslim in any of those buildings then i would be very suprised....

the only reason that i am writing this is because in most/all your posts you make all teh muslims sound like terrorists when there are very few compared to how many muslims live in this world....

[Sefy]

if you read my previous post before posting what you just said, you'd notice I said americans too, don't twist my words, I may be harsh, but right now I got all the rights to be, i've said in a few posts that the US should attack the TERRORIST countries and those that support them.

i'm afraid i'm gonna have to go offline, i'm getting alot of murdering threats on ICQ from Arabs

So I know after I go there will be alot of lies again about Israel, especialy from all the Arabs, after all, they cover they own dirt very well, look how politicly correct they are on TV now, but no one of them is surrendering their terrorists, instead they cover up for them.

Shame on all Muslims which supported on celebrated on the deaths of thusands of innocents!
and to all those that support and hide those butchering fanatics in their countries!

[Baldrick]

This thread can go on forever and forever so I will end it here.

And any new topic created about this subject will be deleted.