IC7 compression does not change

[donbarzini]

I used IC7 on a dual layer DVD which was 5.53 GB. I used IC7 to compress at 100% and the final .PDI files on my HD came out to be 5.53 GB, a perfect 1:1 ratio. I then tried 80%, 90% and 95 %, any time that I used compression under 100%, the .PDI files were 2.97 GB, nothing changed from 80% to 95%, the were always 2.97 GB. It seems that IC7 is not increasing compression quality unless when doing a 100% transfer, it seems more like it's fixed. Anyone else experience this?

[dreadogg]

are you sure you dont mean 3.97 gigs because thats what mine keep coming out to? anyone else? has to be some setting this is my first time using this program.

[donbarzini]

It is definitely 2.97 GB, I just read that someone else is having a similar problem. It seems that IC7 is not compressing to take advantage of the full 4.3 GB that it says it is. I tried again, this time I took 5.53 GB and told IC7 to compress it to 4.8 GB and it still compressed it to 2.97 GB. I can't figure this one out.

[MackemX]

are you removing titles with IC?

try deleting you two discdata files also and have you installed the latest update and changed DVDMAGIC to 1 in the reg?

try reading this and see if IC is seeing the true size of the DVD as maybe it's not but I doubt it's this, but worth checking

https://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=149923

[donbarzini]

Thnaks, I tried deleting the 2 discdata files but that didn't solve the problem. I have a dual layer dvd which turns out to be 5.53 GB. The disc does not have any copy protection so I am reading directly from my DVD Drive and going to my HD with .pdi files. I am not deleting anything from the disc, keeping all menus, audio ts folder,etc. If I keep the IC7 slider at 100%, the .pdi files come out to the same size of the original DVD on my HD, 5 .pdi files totalling 5.53 GB. If I change the slider to any other percentage, 80%, 90%, 95%, 99%, etc., I only get 3 .pdi files totalling 2.97 GB. The 3 2.97 GB .pdi files burn fine and the DVD-R works fine but I'm just trying to figure why I can't encode this to fill the entire disc.

[MackemX]

what movie is it?

are you just keeping movie and one audio?

how long is the movie?

does it have black borders?

and what's it's aspect ratio?

[donbarzini]

This is a training DVD for a software application. I am keeping all files, there is only one audio track. The total DVD is aproximately 1 hr & 47min and the aspect ratio is 4:3 (no black borders). There are a lot of still frames in the tutorial, maybe this could have something to do with it? The actual VIDEO_TS folder has 5.53 GB and the AUDIO_TS folder is 0 GB.

[MackemX]

now that changes things cos because of the still frames it may just be saving loadsa of space resulting in the size you are getting

is the quality still not good and do you not think it's better than any other movie that you would have used a 60% setting?

if it is good quality don't worry, it's just IC is doing such a good job of redusing the video, but's it actually overkill!

I experienced exactly the same affect with Road To Perdition just today after testing it and there is no way around it

[dreadogg]

I experianced this with 8mile so i ended up using DVD2DVDr 1.35 CCE and meastro to author and my outcome was awsome, I still like IC though just could not settle on having extra space left after the transcode.

[MackemX]

did u keep movie only and is the aspect ratio 2.35:1 and have black bars?

I've a funny feeling it does

[dreadogg]

no the aspect ratio on mine was fine, I also have had a friend that says that he has experianced the same problems with IC, with certain movies that is it just will not go over 3.97 gigs. Most people dont check and if they do they probally just dont care, I do.

[MackemX]

is the DVD a 2.35:1 aspect ratio?

if it is it will have black bars top and bottom within the image, aswell as the ones the DVD player adds

this is the cause of the problem

how big was original video file and how much did you try to allocate it and what was the end result?

how much of the movie contains dark scenes?

[dreadogg]

ok if you are referring to me the main film excluding music ect.... was about 4.7 gigs, after I set the menu % to 30 and the xtras and useless music was ripped, I could get the movie to about 95% quality I then overburned to compisate the menu size that was going bye bye the total should have = around 4.7 gigs maybe more I really did not care I was just playing around, being that it was my first attemp at this program, my end result was 3.97 gigs so i then set it to overburn more and my end result was 3.97 gigs. I was told by a friend of mine that it was common on some movies, no all. Now as far as dark scences I would say that there are some but what the difference, as far as the ario it was the widescreen version, the really wide version I have no idea on the ratio,sorry

[MackemX]

@ dreadogg

really wide version is probably the 2.35:1 version and this may have included black bars in the frame image

this is the reason you got undersizing and no matter what you set the movie at it will always only ever be that size you got.

IC is saving a lot more space than it realises when the black bars are in the image

even if you set it to 99.90% for the movie I bet you would get the same resulting size, maybe a few MB's higher but not the 100's you would expect

[dreadogg]

so is that a problem that they need to fix so that we can get better quality out of the program? Also thanks alot for clearing that up.