vcd svcd quality

[rotorspeed]

I finally purchased a dvd player and got all my vcd and svcd movies, the only problem is that the quality wasn't the greatest which I was dissapointed with, definetely not as good as a vhs tape. all my movies were of different original formats, some that looked great on my pc.
My question is when playing vcd's or svcd's is that the way it is? The picture quality was ok but just not crystal clear, I thought that it would be at least as good as vhs. If thats the case I quess I'll have to wait for dvd-r to come down lower in price.
thanks in advace for replys

[tenders]

you have to have a good scource file(dvdrip), then try this:
https://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=119210

[Wackyd]

as to the above he is exactly correct. What goes in comes out. It's all about the source file. One program I reccomend is DVD2SVCD which is in the tools section. That is the only thing I use for all my Svcd copies and it works wonders. They are almost all DVD quality as long as the source file is good. If you like the program there is a how to guide somewhere on here that tells you how to use the program. It very user friendly!!!

[Wackyd]

Here are some links.......

https://www.videohelp.com/forum/userguides/128720.php

https://www.videohelp.com/forum/userguides/111846.php

[rotorspeed]

i have a couple of divx and xvid movies on my hd which look great on the pc, will they also work well on a dvd player once they're converted? I've tried using dvd2svcd but when I load these files under conversion ultility I have to select all files instead of ifo. , it will load but go button will not highlight because its not ifo what am i doing wrong or does it have to be an ifo file
thanks again for the help

[acid512]

DVD2SVCD is a program designed for ripping DVD movies to SVCD.

For converting Divx or Xvid, dont waste your time with DVD2SVCD, just use TMPGenc to encode to mpeg (the templates chose the settings for you, most of the time they dont need changing), and your burning program (nero rules!)to make the VCD/SVCD. If you want more detailed help on this approach, read this https://www.videohelp.com/tmpgenc.htm
What the other guys said is right though, crap in crap out - veiw your movie in full screen mode in media player, your vcd should be slightly better than this, but it wont make a crappy vid good.

*For the best results, make your vcd's from your own DVD rips.*

[Wackyd]

actually dvd2svcd is awesome for turing .avi into svcd. I know exactly what you problem is. You have it in dvd2svcd mode. You need to turn it into avi2svcd mode. Refer to the first link i posted above! Go to the MISC tab in dvd2svcd and on they bottom left there are 3 radio buttons. select the avi button. That will change to program to avi mode. then just go back to the conversion tab and select the avi. the rest is exactly like it is coming from a DVD.

[acid512]

To Wackyd

I have been using TMPGenc for a while know, and think it is the most versitile mpeg converter i have used. However, i have only looked at DVD2SVCD a little, and never bothered to use it to make an mpeg from an avi (to be honest, i didnt even know it had this function).
I was only trying to give the guy a method i knew would work.
Do you find DVD2SVCD faster or better quality than TMPGenc, as i am always happy to find better programs?

Anyway, good luck rotorspeed, hope one of these methods sort your problem.

[rotorspeed]

yeah they do thanks alot for your help

[Wackyd]

TO ROTOR

I wasn't knocking your way. Actually dvd2svcd uses tmpeg anyways. It just pretty much automates everything for you so you don't have to open several programs. you select and put in your preferences and it does the rest for you. check those links out i posted above. That's how found out by reading that guide.

[Gazorgan]

DVD2SVCD is pretty much point and click. It can do a very nice job, or crappy. Again, the better the source, the better the end project. Don't expect miracles with a 2 hour, 1 CD DivX movie. On the other hand, I have some 'perfect' 4 CD backups of movies like Lord of the Rings and Gladiator( Multipass VBR is my friend ).

AVI2SVCD is pretty straight forward, just not 'as good' as converting from the original DVD.

[rotorspeed]

okay I took an original divx file that was good quality which had an fps of 25.000 and frame size 640 x 272 and used dvd2svcd to convert it to vcd (would have liked to do svcd but I don't have the svcd plugin for tmpge). I used virtualdub to check for video errors and there were none.I didnt use the audio tool so that might explain one of the problems.After converting it with dvd2svcd and burning it with nero, playing it in my apex dvd plaer video was choppy and audio was way out of sync. I guess the audio problem is due to when i split it (actually used nanodub) I didnt use the audio tool to fix that but I have no idea why the video was choopy, picture quality was pretty good.
thanks again in advance for the replys

[acid512]

SVCD has been a free part of TMPGenc for all the versions i have used of it(DVD mpeg2 is only 30 day trial). Download the new one from the link in the tools section.

Dont know if this has anything to do with the choppy video, but you might as well have the latest version.

[rotorspeed]

i just redownloaded tmpge and it says 30day mpeg 2 trial is over, i had a earlier version on my computer. I just downloaded dvd2svcd yesterday and when it went to tmpge conversion said the same thing so i dont quite understand what your're meaning

[acid512]

Sorry, I was mistaken. The mpge2 trial does appear to include SVCD mpeg2.

I usually format my main Hard Drive every month or so, so i guess i have never really noticed this.

I'll have another think about your problem in the mean time, but anyway, its always worth having the latest version of TMPGenc.

[Nelson37]

There is a registry key that records the first instance of TMPGenc install, and ALL mpeg-2 functions are not available 30 days after that, unless the registry key is no longer present. This may have been posted previously.

Converting Divx to DVD-compatible files can involve many issues, resizing from oddball sizes, unusual framerates, different audio compressions, many others. Most important issue is that much of the video detail is simply gone, there is no fix for this. I have perhaps 2 videos out of 15-20 converted DivX or Xvid that were even comparable to my re-encoded TV captures, NONE of them, even on the PC, were close to an SVCD (or CVD) made from a DVD rip.

Your question on SVCD/VCD being better than VHS is like asking is Steak better than Hamburger? Well, generally yes, but a decent hamburger is better than a really crappy steak and a really top-notch burger may beat a steak that is only average.

One of the prime benefits of DVD2SVCD is the log file it creates, studying this will teach you a lot. Also, STRONGLY recommend you do at least one DVD rip with the program so that you will have a benchmark to compare your efforts against. That program, properly used with a DVD source, will yield the absolute best-looking SVCD that can be made, IMO.

[Wackyd]

Yeah agree with the last post. How I burn avi's is when I get them I just put them right into dvd2svcd. I don't do any editing myself. And 99% of the time as long as the input I get great output for my svcd's. I too have an apex dvd player. Again consult the guide's i first listed. They will pretty much tell you exactly what you need to do to get the best result!