CCE & original menus & extras?

[Sully]

Before I actually break down & finally invest in a DVD-R burner, I'm trying to understand the "backup" capabilities that will convince me to give up SVCD for DVD-R. So far unless it's a single-sided disc DVD backup is a a pain in the a** & doesn't offer me much more of an advantage to creating SVCD's.

I'll admit I haven't read EVERY post, but what I'm getting so far is that if you have to resort to 2 DVD's you'll still end up losing SOMETHING.

What I'd like to know is, is it possible to encode the movie using CCE & still be able to use the original menus & original navigation? From what I've read once you start using mpeg files you're stuck with creating your own menus.

Anyone out there with comments or guides? I'm open to anything, maybe I'm missing something, or just haven't found the info I'm looking for.

[freak_in_cage_10k]

in short m8:

wish a dvd burner you shouldn;t need to use CCE. almost all of the time you can keep the dvd and the menue and fit it on a normal 4.7 gig dvdr. the reason many dvds are dual layerd now adays and are therfore greater than 4.7 gigs is because the dvds will include multiple languages, subtitles and also special features.

if the file was too big to fit onto a dvdr (vvvvv rare!) then you could encode it using cce with dvd quality settings (slightly reducing bitrate) and then burn onto dvdr. at least then, even if it was only svcd quality at least you wouldn;t need several cd-rs and you could get 2 movies per dvdr.

hope this helps m8

[dhluke]

Of course it's possible to do what you want. Using CCE or any other program. As to being a pain in the ass... everything that doesn't do it itself, it's a pain in the ass...

http://dhluke.myftp.org:8080

Try that... After reading it, you will probably have an idea on what to expect when you get your DVD Burner.

By the way, don't buy anything else BUT a Pioneer (Cydene works too) or Sony. The reason being it's just that most people have either those brands and you can find more help on those brands than others.

dhluke

[Vejita-sama]

Take a look at the DVD rip guides to the left. Here's the basic break down. DVDs come in two formats: DVD-5/Single layer, and DVD-9/Dual layer (DVD-9 discs are actually two DVD-5 discs pressed together, so there's no way to burn them - blu ray aside).

If the discs is DVD-5, just rip an ISO image file in DVD Decrypter, and then burn the image file (also with DVD Decrypter)

If the disc is DVD-9 you basically have 3 choices (assuming you don't want to spilt onto 2 DVD-Rs, which is actually very easy to do):

1) If the main movie is less than 4.7GB you can back up just that (no extras). You can use IFOEdit to do this.

2) If the main movie is more than 4.7GB you have to re-encode at a lower bitrate. You can either keep or remove the extras.

3) Use a program like Instant Copy to 'reduce the size' of everything. All the extras are reduced two.

It's a personal choice how you want to go at this stuff. I use my DVD-RW mostly for making home movies and playing around, but I also backup copies of Japanese and HK discs I buy online (mostly because I don't have a region free player). To each his own.

[Sully]

Thanks. Cheked out the link above... don't quite get it. I'll have to read it a little more closely.

I've been making SVCD's with CCE through AVISynth plus adding the extras & snapshots of the menus (modified with Photoshop) including sound, so yes I know what a pain in the a** is! I just jumped to the notion that backing-up DVD's to DVD-R would be a little easier.

From what's been posted so far, I've gotten that pretty much from reading other posts. To me it sounds like other than CCE, there's no other program that can encode to the desired quality. That's why, if I have a DVD larger than 4.37GB I'd like to use CCE. The problem (for me anyway) is how do I get the converted MPEG files to a burned DVD and still use the original extras & menus?

[Vejita-sama]

Again, there are several guides on how to do this to the left. But here's another good one:

http://www.doom9.org/mpg/maestro2.htm