'This is the best DVD processing tool I have seen'

[MackemX]

Can I try an explain to newbies and people who don't understand the main reason there seems to be a difference of opinion regarding quality loss within DVD2One, InstantCopy, DVD95Copy

firstly a lot of Original VIDEO ONLY filesizes after taking away audio & extras are on average around 4Gb - 5Gb

if you add to this the 1Gb of Audio & subs and the 2Gb of menu's and extras then that is how a DVD is normally 7-8GB

some people don't seem to realise the MOVIE ONLY quality all depends on ONLY the original VIDEO ONLY size and how much space it is allocated in the resulting VIDEO ONLY filesize and this is the reduction %

an Original VIDEO ONLY filesize of 5Gb allocated 3Gb will suffer with quality loss. An example would be something like Saving Private Ryan (150mins+) (40% reduction)

InstantCopy will suffer the least, followed by DVD95Copy & DVD2One. CCE would put them all to shame

But a 4Gb VIDEO ONLY original filesize allocated 3.6GB will be very hard to seperate quality wise between the 3 tools! (but still slighty noticable). An Example would be Shrek (90mins) (10% reduction)

so that is why some people think the quality for all tools is 'Fantastic' because the reduction is size has been around 10% and the differences in opinions start

also note that the bigger the MOVIE ONLY file, obviously the bigger the audio file (which does not get reduced), so there will be less available space for the Resulting MOVIE ONLY file so this is also a factor in quality loss on larger files

Hopefully everyone can understand this now and why sometimes there is always a difference of opinion as to which is best of these 4 tools as everyones Original & Resulting VIDEO ONLY sizes will be different and hopefully all the name calling/bitching/slagging off/arguements etc can stop and we can actually discuss the methods on how to use all these tools to their full potential

All 3 are great tools but each tool has own field that's it is superior in

the user's needs & requirements will determine which tool is best suited for them

before I forget there is one last major factor that affects the opinions of quality loss and that is best said by this quote from DVDDemystified

"In the end it's a matter of individual perception and the level of quality delivered by the playback system"

cheers

p.s. It would interesting to hear people's opinions on this but in a civilised manner and the figures and films quoted are guestimates

[Haku]

I agree that its down to the individuals needs at the end of the day.

I my self use CCE if a movie needs to be resized to fit on a disc.And i get ride of all the extras and menus,this way i can allocate as much of the disc space as possible to the movie.

The odd movie here or there like Mean Machine(R2) for example i'll keep every thing as theres no extras,just the movie,1 audio track and one sub track.The menu was only 2 - 5 mb.

But as said its down to the individual.

[thingimijig]

i agree, you cant touch cce.

the problem is a lot of people are just starting out and using the other programs and havent a clue about the difference cce can make.

i personaly use cce if the movie is over 5.5gb

but if the movie is under 5.5gb i would use dvd2one.

as for episodes, both depending on size.

thingimijig.

[Landtank]

I tried DVD2One on Gladiator as my first test. I have a Panasonic 47 widescreen and thought the results were very good. I did just the movie and only 6ch sound to help on space. I know that I'm not the most critical but felt it was pleasing to watch.

Rick

[Bob W]

For me it's what is easy to use but fast and what is the cheapest way to get there so DVD2one is my choice.

[LanceSteel]

CCE for the most part has always been out of reach for the average consumer which is why other programs are used (and liked.) Tmpeg and DVD2One are very reasonably priced and other tools such as Rempeg are free. Now with the lower price of CCE basic, the encoding community (including myself) may actually give it a try.

[thxkid]

well there is one more tool that is the only one that does a 1:1 copy and thats DVDxCOPY, everything else is either tanscoding or reencoding and thats never gonna be as good as a 1:1 zero loss mirror copy and there are plenty of DVD's out there that can be done with one disc using DVDxCOPY, personally I use only DVDxCOPY Beta(did not like the later versions) and DVD2ONE, use recordnow DX 4.6 to record from both.

[ghoster]

what about DVD Decrypter thats the only thing you need to use for most dvds when you are copying them.