Road To Perdition and Instant Copy Bug No Change File Size

[rgardjr]

I've been using Instant Copy to backup some dvds and it been working fine for all the other titles that I've used it for. My method for backing up the titles is a little different than what most people probably do so I'll explain it first. The first thing I do is to rip the main movie only with DVD Decryptor. Then I use Ifoedit Vob Extras to strip the movie down one English 5.1 soundtrack and one engish subtitle. After this is finished I do a Get VTS Sectors with Ifoedit. I now have a stripped down version that I can either dump to dvd if it fits or have instant copy reencode for me to make it fit. Now here's where my problem begins. I did the above method for Road to Perdition and ended up with 4.86 GB for the final stripped down size after running it through IfoEdit. I then fire up Instant copy to let it do its thing and the result is always the same 3.74 GB. I've set the slider at 4.64 GB, 4.70 GB, 4.80 GB, 4.84 GB and all the way up to 99.99% (basically moved the slider to 100% and hit the left arrow key one time) and it doesn't matter I always end up with the same result. I've duplicated this on another computer as well. All of the other movies I've done will increase the file size when I bump up the predicted file size. Anyone have any ideas? Also, I'm guessing that CCE may be a better solution for me than IC. I just want to back up the main movie with the highest possible quality-I don't care about menus or extras. I've looked at a few guides for CCE, but it seems pretty complicated. My understading is that you have to rip, then convert (demux??), then let CCE re-encode the video, then recombine video and audio (remux??), then author the results for dvd. That process seems pretty complicated and if someone wanted to point me in the right direction for some simplified CCE guide/instruction I'd appreciate that as well.

[lablover]

Did the same DVD last night. Used DVD2One and it looks awesome. Thanks to Ghoster and Burnfree for the help!

[dpcpro]

I just did Road To Perdition using DVD2SVCD and CCE.

To help you along your way with authoring and CCE, I recommend using DVD2SVCD in advanced mode to generate mpv files for DVD authoring. Then use DVDMaestro to author. You can find guides for both DVD2SVCD (for DVD to DVDR) and DVDMaestro on either this site or doom9.org.

It's really easy, Good Luck.

dpcpro

[MackemX]

I don't think it's a bug

you have butchered the DVD, and fed it to IC and expect miracles

It won't workl unless you maintain a vlid DVD structure

I would do it this way

Say the main movie is Title 1
I would select which audio & subs I want to keep for that Title

and set the slider bar for the Title so that the predicted figure inside the brackets is 4.37)

make a note of the predicted figure outside the brackets and now move the slider again so that the predicted figure inside the brackets is 4.37Gb + 7% of the figure outside the brackets

eg.

Original 4.82Gb(5.89Gb)
Predicts 3.73Gb(4.37Gb)

so I would take 7% of 3.73Gb (0.26Gb) and add that to the 4.37Gb making 4.63Gb

untick all the other Titles and set the menu to 100% so it does not reencode

strip the main movie out afterwards and you should end up with a Title file of around 4.34-4.37Gb

hope you get what I mean

[rgardjr]

dpcpro:
Thanks for the heads up I'll check out the guides!

MackemX:
Thanks for the help. I do understand the method you're having me use. Basically reverse the order in which I use IfoEdit and Instant Copy. That being said-I have used my method with a number of other dvds and it has worked just fine. I'm just not understanding why it won't work with The Road To Perdition. I just did the exact same thing for WindTalkers and on the first try setting IC output to 4.70 GB I ended up with 4.15. I then bumped up IC output to 4.80 GB and got 4.22 GB. I'm sure if I went back a third time and bumped it up to around 4.90 GB I'd end up with around 4.38 GB. Thanks for helping me out!

[NYPlayer]

rgardjr

If your intention is to feed IC just the main movie used DVDToolbox. It does everyting in one shot. You can strip the audio subs etc...and there won't be any ifo issues when completed.

http://www.plenert.net/DVDToolbox

[MackemX]

use your maths skills

I can see from your figures that for your predicted files are 88% of the predicted size

4.15/4.70=88.29% accuracy
4.22/4.80=87.91% accuracy

now obviously the Gb values are not exactly right but you can see that you will probably need an original prediction of 4.94Gb

4.94*88%=4.37GB

I normally take of 0.02 Gb to be safe so I would use a setting of 4.92Gb

really you should use this but only using the VIDEO filesizes as the audio/subs are not reduced, but takes a little more mathematics

to work out the audio just subtract the predicted filesize outside the brackets from the figure inside the brackets. This is the audio size

simple really