With dvd recorders so high why dosn't some company try this?

[baker]

Would you guys buy this???

SONY'S NEW TV RECORDER!!!

THIS NEW INNOVATIVE PRODUCT FROM SONY ALLOWS YOU TO RECORD FROM YOUR TV/DVD/VCR TO ORDINARY CD-R DISCS IN DVD QUAILTY!!!!

THE PLUS OF THIS IS WHILE IN SOME REGIONS DVD-RS ARE €10'S A PIECE, CD-RS CAN BE AS LOW AS €0.60C EACH!!!!!

THE PICTURE IS AS SUPERB AS A DVD!!!!!!

Specs-
RGB in
S-video in
Composite in (on front panel)

A DVD-LIKE RECORDER FOR ONLY:
€799!!!+tax&v.a.t


Baker

[baker]

right heres how it works.

Using sonys double density drive we will get around 1.3-1.4gbs to a cd-r.

Now using an mpeg-4 encoder we would well get most films onto a disc,

however their should be an option on the recorder like Long play or something for those long action films, the long play option obvisouly saving the film at 480x576(480) which will get up to 180mins of file to a disc.

Wel whats your views??? I ahve always wonderied and in a way wqaited for a company to do this but perhaps their afriad to cloud the dvd market???

Baker

[rhegedus]

You can now buy a DVD recorder for £400 INCLUDING TAX! Why would I bother with a jumped up cd burner that no one else could use the disks it produced?

http://www.dixons.co.uk/...

Regards,

Rob


use the url bbcode if the link is very long or else will the table become too wide /Baldrick

[energy80s]

Something like this would have to sell for around £150 to be viable and as the products for recordable DVD are getting cheaper by the day, the product lifespan of an HQ VCD recorder would be very short.

[baker]

right I have to say I would never buy either.

I dont have any sort of input that would be worth recording except for my dvdz and I copy them using my pc.

But tehcnically speaking something like this should be way cheraper then a dvd recorder to make and A LOT cheaper to run

But I guess your right, its not worth it.

Baker

[mickboss]

Who cares about CDs?!!??!!?!?!?

I buy DVD-Rs at 1.5 euros (~ 1.5 US dollars) and a DVD-R HOLDS 6.7x MORE than a CD-R! 8)

DVD-Rs are EXTREMELY compatible and quality is FAR BETTER than Divx. 8)

Get real!!!

CDs are dead (it´s only a matter of time, soon Discmans and other devices will read DVDs)

DVDs are in masses now (laptops, PCs, Macs, Standalone DVD players, DVD-Recorders at cheap prices (~250 US dollars)) - why should we care about films in CDs?! And even double density CDs that are only played in SONY DD drives...

Conclusion (mine):
- Vinil discs: dead
- VHS/SVHS/Hi 8: dead
- DV/Mini DV: still useful in digital cameras
- Mpeg Digital Cameras: useful in digital cameras
- CDs: soon will be dead (I give CDs 2 more years)
- DVDs: THE NEW STANDARD and the future in the masses market
- Blue Laser DVDs: the future (long-term) and high-end

Why should I care about a CD with 700Mb when for 3x more I can have 4.7Gb IN ONE DISC?

PS: I love DVD+RW... 4.7 Gb and 2.4x writing

[flaninacupboard]

i have to object! vinyl is far from dead, it's just only considered as a viable option by people with pots of money, as to get better fidelity than CD you need several grands worth of turntable, cartridge, phono prestage and sensitive pre-amp. again, the CD is far from dead. as a data storage medium it will be around basically forever. with newer OSes that support built in writing (such as XP) cd-rw functionality will soon be identical to the use of a floppy disc. and tell me how many machines don't have a cd drive? cd-rw is a great medium for everyday file transfer, and dvd-r is a great archive method. CD is also the forerunner of the music industry, and will stay that way for a while. DVD-Audio has been deemed "low quality" and suffers from the surround sound bug. there are only so many ways you can mess around with an original mono recording (say, the beatles) turning it into a surround mix, before you decide it's crap and put the original CD in. however, because DVD-A also has DD 5.1 mixes on the disc they will be popular in some way. SACD is better, mildly better quality, and lots of stereo titles that are just higher resolution (the only thing a lot of audiophiles are interested in.) and a slightly higher RRP, and not real backward compatibility makes SACD a no go. in short, CD music is here to stay, until somoene sorts out a decent way to sell MP3. i just hope they don't drive studios away from CD prodution *shudders* no music that isn't mp3erised. i couldn't live that way!!

[bokkasrealm]

Conclusion (mine):
- Vinil discs: dead
- VHS/SVHS/Hi 8: dead
- DV/Mini DV: still useful in digital cameras
- Mpeg Digital Cameras: useful in digital cameras
- CDs: soon will be dead (I give CDs 2 more years)
- DVDs: THE NEW STANDARD and the future in the masses market
- Blue Laser DVDs: the future (long-term) and high-end

Vinyl is alive only for the purists and collectors.
VHS is still alvie because its the cheapest home format.
SVHS was never alive.
Hi 8 is holding on to the older generation who dont care about DV.
DV/MINI DV is in full effect and still picking up steam.
MPEG is the future of portable video. Especially MPEG4.
CD's are dominating the market place as far as music. They wont die for another 5 years.
DVD's will slowly drown out VHS as the recorders and media get cheaper. Panasonic now has a $499.99 DVD-R recorder. Thats list price!
Blue Laser Anything is the wave of the future. It will not dominate the music scene. MP3's will dominate for the next 5 years until a new codec comes out that destroys it.

[musher70]

Does "E" stand for euro or pound?
how much is that right now?
or it that AU?

[ZippyP.]

£ = Pound, E = Euro (the Euro symbol is in the first post, I can't get it to work for me.)

1 Euro = 1.08 USD = .68 GB Pound = 1.6 Can. D = 1.78 Aus. D

[energy80s]

Having recently bought an S-VHS recorder (as my old one had expired) I think it's still far from dead!! Although DVD's have taken off much faster than expected, they are still in the minority in both video stores and peoples homes compared with VHS, so don't write that format off just yet. I don't know about the US, but in the UK CD-R never really took off as a home music format and its hard to find more than one or two CD recorders in the shops. Minidisc however has taken off and is very popular. Personally I wouldn't dream of using CD-R discs for music as they are far too unreliable. I have a minidisc walkman, a minidisc hi-fi deck and a minidisc in-car system and wouldn't change them for the world!

[baker]

energy 80's what r u on about I live in sotuhern ireland and everybody has a cd recorder and makes their own cds

baker

[version20]

Maybe people should clarify what they mean when they say a format is "dead".

To me it is a format that is no longer (or barely) supported.

Just because you own vinyl, an s-vhs player, or a laserdisc player, does not mean that they are still going strong.

For all intents and purposes, to the majority of consumers, those formats are indeed "dead".

If there are 20 new major album releases this week, how many will you be able to find on vinyl? 2 or 3 maybe? Tell me where you shop for the latest S-VHS and Laserdisc releases.. Right... so there you have it.

DVDs will likely be around for quite a while still as Blu Ray offers no real advantages to the average consumer - sorry but most people dont need 12 hours of extras tacked on to their favorite movie.

CDs will probably be around for quite a while too since the music industry is too ignorant to see the potential of newer digital formats.

Oh yeah, and regarding the poll. No I wouldnt buy that thing. Its rather silly considering all the other options these days.

-v20

[JamesB69]

yeah sounds cool.

1. You make your first disc. Then you realise that you can only play it on YOUR recorder, because there are no readers. None of your friends or family have one.

2. Will they ever make Blue whatever players (readers)? Why would they since there is no media available for them.

3. Why would the companies make pre-recorded media, if there are no players for them?

4. IF they did make these things, how many people are going to get rid of their relatively new DVD players? On an analog TV you may not be able to tell as big of a difference between blue-stuff and DVD as you can between VHS and DVD. One main reason that DVD picked up was cuz of the nifty menus and extra features that were not possible on VHS. What can Blue-stuff give us that DVD cannot?

In conclusion, this Blue stuff may pick up but it will be a LONG time. Dont get your hopes up and dont waste your money. Stick with DVD-R

P.S. as far as laserdiscs, etc being dead, a huge part of the people dont know what minidisc, laserdisc, SVHS are. I dont think those things were ever alive. They were more of a niche product for audio and videophiles.

Althouhg at least laserdisc has Star Wars......

[maggieh]

betamax anybody?

[Capt Peachfuzz]

I just want to verify, mickboss and bokkasrealm, that your definition of whether a format is living or dead is whether you can purchase media that has been encoded on the format?

I don't think that's a valid measure. You're aware that S-VHS tapes are used in ADAT digital recording machines? They're still a popular format for most home and small professional studios. Furthermore, Hi-8 video recorders are still being sold in electronic stores in the US. Vinyl will most likely be available for another decade, at least for club/dance and punk music, and most people I know (including myself) have maintained their sizable vinyl collections.

Despite the ever growing cries that the CD is dead, I can't see the need for a new portable format just yet. Artists seldom are able to create more than the current 12 songs per release. And, unless there is an amazing new breakout format, I don't see the general public clamoring for more data per song. In the portable world stereo is king, because, after all, we still only have two ears. While I am starting to see some experimentation in the realm of DVD-Audio, the general public doesn't have the need for music delivered through 5.1. Most 5.1 systems are set up for home theater viewing and if they're in front of the TV anyway, chances are they'll prefer to watch a movie.

The CD is an all too convenient format. Without any outcry from the entertainment industry for change and with the combined world economies in a slump, I suspect that the CD has at least another five years.

[MOVIEGEEK]

This is off topic...but does anybody remember Quadra-Phonic?
30+ years ago some LP's had 4 tracks but most people only had stereo
(and as Capt Peachfuzz said"still only have two ears")systems so the format died(just like DVD-Audio will).

[flaninacupboard]

i disagree, lamentabley DVD-A will not die. just think, some sad teeny bopper can go and buy the new N-sync or 911 (or whatever may be popular in america these days!) album, and not only have the songs, but the music videos, making the music videos, and dear god...... KARAOKE VERSIONS AND SCROLLING LYRICS!!
once 11 year old girls are buying it, that's where the music industry will go.

[bokkasrealm]

CD-R's never took off in Europe? Are you kidding yourself? Minidisc was only popular in Japan. I know this stuff for a fact because I trade with so many people all the time from all over the world.