OSex Question: Quick and simple

[IU Scott]

I should probably know this by now, but I have a dvd that is around 3.58GB in its entirety. For some reason, I am getting a disk error when trying to extract using OSex "DVD Folders." It reads:

"OSExThread_DiscFormat::dvdx:mkdir()"

So, I chose "DVD Image" instead and extracted it that way. So now I have an .img file that is 3.57GB. Can I just drop it in Toast to burn to a DVD with no problem? Specifically, will there be any sync issues or region encoding issues? This is a U.S. DVD and it will be played on a U.S. DVD player. I used DVD Backup to copy this and my DVD player says it cannot play the disc. I hope you guys can explain this to me. I know it's an easy question for most of you. Thanks!

[AntnyMD]

Just curious: When you used DVD Backup, did you take the VIDEO_TS folder it made and, for example, burned it in Toast as a DVD project? I ask because I get the feeling people around here are burning things in Toast as CD-ROM projects because all of the "extras" in Toast are in that weird menu where you have to click-and-hold to see the options (whereas the easier Toast options are a point-and-click affair).

[IU Scott]

I chose "Other" and selected "New DVD."

[schmeg]

Your original OSeX problem is solvable.

That error message occurs when OSeX tries to decode directories other than AUDIO_TS and VIDEO_TS. I'll bet you a nickel that your disk had a JACKET_P directory or DVD_ROM features in a folder somewhere.

In 99% of the cases, creating the "other" folders ahead of time (and dragging them from the DVD to your main movie usually does the trick) fixes the problem.

[IU Scott]

You're right about the JACKET_P folder. But I don't understand your instructions. Will you dumb it down for me? Also, aside from fixing my original problem, can I just burn the dvd image that is extracted from OSEx (see original post). Thanks again!

[schmeg]

Okay, try this with your disk.

Instead of creating a disk image, you're going to copy the folder off the DVD that holds all the video files. This is one of MANY ways to backup a DVD -- and is appropriate if you have a disk with less than 4.3 GB of material, and you'd like to preserve the menu structure, etc., just as it is on the source disc. So, no more disk image, just folders.

In OSeX, click the "FMT" button and choose DVD Folders. Then hit "BEGIN" and set your destination folder. It will decrypt all the folders on the source disk and copy them to your hard drive, into a folder named the same as the source disk (you can change this in OSeX before you hit BEGIN). Here's where the bit about the JACKET_TS folder comes in.

If you get that error message, you'll need to manually create the folders first. It's very easy.

See the HIGH_NOON DVD icon on your Desktop? Double-click that to open a folder with its contents. What are the folders called on that disc?

In Finder, open the folder that holds the info that OSeX created so far. If you have a working directory for your DVD disc called, let's say, "HIGH_NOON," in a working directory called SCOTTSDVD -- go there.

Create additional folders in SCOTTSDVD/HIGH_NOON to match those on the source disc. To create a new subfolder, press Apple-Shift-N -- this created an "untitled folder." Double click on the new folder name to allow you to rename it to JACKET_P, etc.

So far so good?

When you have the folder structure ready to go, point OSeX to your SCOTTSDVD folder and try the DVD Folder process again. It'll "create" a HIGH_NOON directory there and all the subfolders, but since you've cleverly done that work already it won't hit that previous speedbump and stop.


When the dust settles, take a look at your HIGH_NOON folder. Delete the JACKET_P folder. Open the VIDEO_TS folder. Delete anything that doesn't start with VTS_ or VIDEO_TS.

You say you have Toast? Put a blank DVD in the drive, open Toast. From the "Other" drop-down menu, choose DVD. Drag your HIGH_NOON folder with the VIDEO_TS and AUDIO_TS subfolders (AUDIO_TS should be empty; many commercial discs don't include this, as it's not relevant to video DVDs, but I don't know if there are any players that have problems if it's not there...I've burned discs without an AUDIO_TS and they play fine).

Where were we? Drag your folders into the TOAST window. Does it now have a little round disk icon with HIGH_NOON, and a subfolder called VIDEO_TS filled with files called VIDEO_TS* and VTS*?

If you see any files like .DS_STORE, click once on their names and press the "Remove" button.

You're ready to burn. Hit the shiny red clown-nose button, specify any additional settings per Toast's options, and enjoy.

[schmeg]

Oh, and get the latest version of OSex: 0.0101b. I only got that error message when I used a different version (0.0110a1).

And if your question was REALLY just "how to burn disk image" then forgive me -- I don't have the foggiest. I've never done it that way.

Good luck!

[IU Scott]

Wow. Thank you for taking all that time to explain it to me. I will give it a try and also get the new version of OSEx. Your help is VERY much appreciated.

[patent10021]

Hi, I am trying to backup the movie Frailty. It is 6.5GB. I tried using DVDBackup but it gave me an error towards the end of the rip process. I then tried 0Sex and the same thing occured. I get an error and its the same error as listed here in this thread. In the Frailty DVD there are only 2 folders. AUDIO_TS & VIDEO_TS. No other file or folder names . I even tried making a disc image using 0Sex then opening that image on the desktop and dragging the VIDEO_TS folder content to another folder and seeing if that would work.

Is this just a DVD that is one of those that ultimately can't be ripped or am I doing something wrong. I'm on a Mac.

Thanks

P

[AntnyMD]

The more I read here about problems people are having I'm thinking that they're not ripping the same discs and/or regions of discs .. For example, the film Do the Right Thing is available in two region 1 versions, so if that movie had problems, just as an example, it would depend on which version and which region. I guess my point is we not only need specifics on what your computer capabilities are, but specifics about the actual disc you're working from, and not just a movie title.

And if you're working with something you downloaded off the internet dont even ask. galactica can lock down a topic from REM sleep!

[patent10021]

What are you talking about? This is a regular NTSC release of Frailty I'm talking about. North America. Why does it matter about regions anyway when these ripping programs ignore them or remove them? I can watch the DVD on my Mac of course. It's from my region.

In my case thisn't a common error. I have been able to burn 29 out of 30 DVDs so I know what I'm doing. I posted here cause this is a peculiar situation.

It's a simple question. 0Sex or DVDBackup doesn't work with the original Frailty NTSC DVD I have. It gives me the same error msg that others are getting for other problems mentioned above and I wanted to know why in my case I'm getting this msg. There are no "jacket" files/folders as mentioned above. Just regular AUDIO/VIDEO TS FOLDERS.

[WiseWeasel]

It matters because each region's edition of each movie is mastered differently, and where one might work fine, the same movie from a different region, or just another edition might not. Does Hades work on that DVD?

[AntnyMD]

It's a simple question. 0Sex or DVDBackup doesn't work with the original Frailty NTSC DVD I have. It gives me the same error msg that others are getting for other problems mentioned above and I wanted to know why in my case I'm getting this msg. There are no "jacket" files/folders as mentioned above. Just regular AUDIO/VIDEO TS FOLDERS.

If it were simple I guess you would have solved the problem on your own. You haven't. It's not so simple is it.

[terryj]

Patent,
I would reccomend master Galactica's Soap Trick for this DVD.
my backing up of Final Destination 2 was like your Fraility,
and the soap trick worked wonders when it got to the end of the disc.

You'll find as you buy more PVT, especially at cockblockuster and
sorrywood video, that scratches and scuffs are more common, and
will cause your general errors in reading the disc.

The magic soap trick is one you need in your arsenal.
:P
do a forum search for "soap trick" in this forum.
Someday, master galactica will make it a sticky.

[galactica]

Someday, master galactica will make it a sticky.

is this worth a sticky?!

[terryj]

I would say yes, it is very helpful for many of us,
and it has come up as a topic here a lot this week.

[galactica]

Soap Trick

[AntnyMD]

It's insane that people want a How-to on how to wipe off a frickin' disk. Theres "help" and then theres "helpless"!!

[galactica]

i agree.... but ill put it up for a little... then its going down

[terryj]

I just love it when people who sit around with nothing better to do
than post crap about how newbies don't know how to do something,
that they learned 440+ posts ago, and how "helpless" and how
so much beneath them they are. Gee, thanks for wasting my bandwidth
with your highly intelligent perspective Ant. Man, its a wonder with
helpers like you and your attitude, we ever get new people to the forum?

The "magic soap trick" is NOT known by newbies for what
it can do, and many newbies and not so newbies, excuse us,
simply don't think that about the simplest things, because many
of us are still bombarded or overwhelmed by this new
thing we call "DVD Ripping" on the macintosh, which I might add
IS STILL relatively new.

First thoughts are usually directed to hardware, setup and
configurations. ( Is it my Os, my Ram, my SD?)

Second thoughts are usually then directed to media and
compatibility. ( is it my TDK, APPLE, Verbatim, etc. blanks)

Third thought is usually directed towards encoding or encryption
on the DVD itself. ( is it CSS, Macrovision, RCE)

The fact remains is that Galactica's "magic soap trick" helps
in the process, and keeps everything in persepctive, that sometimes
its not the hardest things to look for that might be causing the problem,
but actually the easiest overlooked. Thank you master Galactica,
for graciously posting the sticky.

Its not "helpless" as you put it, but being "helpful".
Everyone was a newbie once, and it amazes me how some jackholes
on this forum want to heckle and belittle because and otherwise make
fools of themselves because they can't either remember what its like
to be a newbie, or that this forum remains open to provide
help to those who don't or might not know every trick in the book,
that is HELPFUL, newbie or not newbie.

Of course, what, you forgot to do that like 440 odd posts ago?

[WiseWeasel]

Perhaps it's because those newbies post it in a rude manner, or reply to people trying to help them with impolite comments. . . really makes you wanna help a person . . . (FYI, I'm talking about that 'patent' guy, not terryj, though he sure has his moments )

[AntnyMD]

I dont object to newbies looking for help .. clearly I rub terryj the wrong way (I'll just learn to live with that one). It's one thing for galactica to say "try this soap thing" -- its entirely another to have to have a "How to wipe off your dirty DVD" sticky. I was never that ignorant of a newbie -- I dont think anyone is. I do believe there are people too lazy to do a search or read old threads.

[galactica]

if newbies want a tutorial there they go....
hey im all about tutorials... look at my site!

i remember what it was like when i started. look back and look at some of my first posts.....

uhh whats a SVCD and how do i make one
we all start fresh and become who we are today.

if the sticky helps people... great!
if it annoys people.... great (its just more to chat about and all out post counts go up )

[terryj]

Ant, you don't rub me the wrong way...heck you haven't even found the right way to rub me yet.... 8)

I understand your sentiment about people not searching the
forum for old posts, this is a valid argument.
However, count back the last few "I have a problem with
DVDBackup/OSex posts" and in at least two off the top of my head
( its 6 am and this jedi hasn't had his morning cup of joe yet)
where the Soap Trick was the proverbial light bulb over the head
fix that helped. And as I said before, sometimes the simplest things can be overlooked, dvd ripping does get frustrating at times, and the old
"magic soap trick" puts things in perspective, interesting enough.

and I agree Galactica, the post counts are going up,
and thank your for your tutorials most graciously posted on the subject.