New : DvD2One v1.0.1 - beats the crap out of InstantCopy7!!

[Will Hay]

gobama wrote:

Instant Copy sux! This is my opinion, but seriously the software doesn't even work on my system. Too much of a headache. I'm willing to sacrifice a miniscule amount of quality with a method (dvd2one) that actually works.

Maybe it didn't work because your PC specs don't meet the minimum requirements.....

LOL!
Excellent point - killed that whiny complainer dead!
Will

[digitalmaster]

Once you enable the DVDMagic registry setting, InstantCopy beats DVD2ONE hands down at this point. It allows you to select which which titles you want to keep, and lets you preview each one separately so you know which ones you are removing. I removed the commercials off of the DVD with a simple click. I then encoded, burned and put in my DVD player. The commercials were gone and the DVD looked perfect. InstantCopy also allows you to select different quality\compression for each title seperately. So you can have your movie at 80% and have the extras at 50%. It also has a preview window going while it is encoding. It may be slower than DVD2ONE but seems to have near 1:1 encoding ratio. If you select 100% it does not seem to do any encoding at all, and just strips the .m2v out of the VOB

[bmiller]

What is the dvdmagic registry setting.I ordered my copy of instant copy,and thought i'd get a head start by reading posts on this software.
Thanks

[evilights]

Maybe I'm the only one that finds the idea of the new serial registration for DVD2One ironic. No offense to the creators of the software but they are trying to make money off illegal copying of movies and yet want to be paid for this. So it's ok to steal from any movie distribution house but it's not ok to steal from them?

[digitalmaster]

Just search the registry for this exact term. DVDMagic and change that setting to 1. It is in the registry twice so make sure you change both. It seems to put this setting in different places on XP and 2000.

[Scarpad]

So, pick one!
I'm going for DvD2One. It's a little more complex when you want to keep all the menus, but you can do 4 dvd's on an evening. The quality difference between InstantCopy and DvD2One isn't worth the extra 3 hours.[/quote]

I agree I have a decent Player a Toshiba SD6200 progressive scan. I've played backup's on my Mits 65" Widescreen, and they all look great to me. I've A-B comparisioned the original against the copy and I really don't see a difference. Now I'm talking a 90-120 min movie with One Audio Stream and Usually One Sub. Naturally I saw a difference on the Green Mile when I AB's my copy against my original, but hell it's a 3Hr Plus Movie ! And you know what, the copy was'nt half bad, certainly more than watchable, and definately better than VHS and SVCD.

[DvdHeader]

evilights wrote:

Maybe I'm the only one that finds the idea of the new serial registration for DVD2One ironic. No offense to the creators of the software but they are trying to make money off illegal copying of movies and yet want to be paid for this. So it's ok to steal from any movie distribution house but it's not ok to steal from them?

I'm sorry for you evilights but I think you miss the point completely.

First: DVD2ONE does not decrypt any DVD movies. This is done by DVDDecrypter

Second: DVD2ONE has been intended only for movies that YOU OWN


I presume now that many of you will bury me because of my second comment. The world of course is not perfect and a lot of people out there will use the program to copy movies they do not own and there is nothing we can do about that fact.

I presume that most people are honest and will use this program accordingly. I personally own around 250 movies that I bought with my hard earned money and don't see why I should pay around $200-$300 of insurance premium to protect what is mine.

This is the reason why I purchased DVD2ONE so I can have a set of copies that I can put away somewhere to make sure I won't loose my movie collection due to a fire or a burglary.

I buy all my movies and I like menus, features and so on but I'm ready to compromise with keeping only the main movie on my backups if a disaster ever happen to my collection. So this why I don't mind paying for movies and I surely don't mind paying for this little wonderful program.

[evilights]

First let me say I dont want to start a flame war but DvdHeader I think you are a minority user. I use this site for help with my TV captures, but I like to read the forums as well. These may be my first posts but I've been here quite a few times and most people tend to talk about what appears to me as making illegal "back ups". Personally I dont "back up" my own DVDs to any format.

This is the reason why I purchased DVD2ONE so I can have a set of copies that I can put away somewhere to make sure I won't loose my movie collection due to a fire or a burglary.

I hope you are storing these elsewhere. Because backups can be stolen and burnt just as easily as the origianls.

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[DvdHeader]

Don't worry evilights there is no offense taken and I'm not about to start a thread war. I respect you opinion and you may be right about me being part of a minority. I hope I am not though because I would feel very lonely.

I do keep my backups in a different and safe place so that chances something happens at both places at about the same time are minimal.

And don't worry even if this was your first post. It is not how many times you say (write) something that is important, it is what you say or write that is.

[herbapou]

I do keep my backups in a different and safe place so that chances something happens at both places at about the same time are minimal.

Very good idea and here is why:

Most Burglars dont even look at your TV/VCR now. They take CD/DVD some clothing/Jewl and leave.

Car insurance will rise premiums after the second claim and at 3 or more claims, some companies dont even want to insure you. For home insurance its even worst, some companies will refuse you after just 1 claim. And for homes, expect large premium increase after 1 claim.

I am getting pretty tired of repeating this, but copying rent or borrow DVD`s is legal in most countries.

[clairehoward]

Each of the programs have both benifits & issues.
1)cce costs a fortune but the quality is by far superb.
2)Dvd2one very cheap and good quality for encoding time.
3)Instant copy 7 The first program to convert dvd9 to dvd5 good quality.

All the above programs are worth using depending upon the individual.

I personally use all 3 programs. The main program is now Dvd2one for its speed.

Lets hope the the authors keep up their good work.

[DvdHeader]

herbapou wrote:

I am getting pretty tired of repeating this, but copying rent or borrow DVD`s is legal in most countries.

Is it in North America

[herbapou]

Well since I can cut and paste it here it goes:

I am getting seriously annoy by the people who cant make the difference between piracy and fair used. There is a reason why its legal in most countries to copy music or movies from radio, music CD's, TV broadcast, VHS or DVD's.

Before I post you the legal articles for Canada, I will try to explain you why. There is 2 powers figthing each other here: on one side there is the movie/music industry and on the other side there are consumer groups and comons sense.

If the movie/music industry could have it there way, there would be no VHS, DVD or music CD's. You would had to "rent" every piece of material you want to watch/listen per used. They even tried to pull this off at the beginning of the digital medias.

On the other hand, the consumers wants to be able to make unrestricted number of copies of everything they want. Some even want to be able to share copies with there friends. But they will all agree that selling or counterfitting copies is piracy.

In the middle of all this is the law. I am not going to talk about the encryption laws and the cracking of copy protection because those laws are not related to the copyrights laws. Here is the law regarding the copying of copyright material for Canada:

Private copying refers to the making of copies of pre-recorded musical works, performer’s performances and sound recordings onto a blank recording medium, such as audio tape or cassette for personal use. An example is buying a blank tape, going home and making a second copy of your favorite tape so you can have a copy to play in the car. Another example is borrowing a tape from a friend and making your own copy instead of buying one. Three copyrights can be involved when private copies are made: copyright in the sound recording, copyright in the music and copyright in the performer’s performance. Because these copies are made privately, creators cannot enforce their copyright and consequently cannot collect the royalties due.

Effective March 19, 1998 the Copyright Act permits these private copies to be made and introduces a levy to compensate copyright owners for royalties lost to private copying. The levy is collected on all blank audio recording media, for example, on cassettes and tapes. The levy applies to all blank recording media made or imported into Canada. The rules governing with the private copying levy are contained in sections 79 to 88 of the Copyright Act.

http://strategis.ic.gc.ca/sc_mrksv/cipo/cp/cp_circ_15-e.html
http://www.cpcc.ca/english/proposedTariff.htm
http://www.cb-cda.gc.ca/news/c19992000fs-e.html


In the United States, they call it "Fair Use", but it not really the same law and its not has permissive has the Canadian law. The king of Private Copying is France, who has the most permissive law.

http://www.01net.com/article/195431.html (French)

But how could it be legal to copy rented or borrow material??

The main rules regarding private copying are this:

1. Copie must be made from originals only.
2. Copie must only be for the private and non-collective used of the person making the copy.
3. Copie must not be copy again.

Those rules implied lots of things.

#1: You cant copy from another copy. You cant download music/movies from the internet, EVEN if you own it. So any kind of peer to peer application would always be illegal.
#2: You cant make copies for somebody else: For example, it would be illegal to back-up DVD's for your buddy who doesnt have a DVD burner even if he owns those DVD's and copies are for him only.
#3: Well, thats kind of obvious giving rule #1, but I mention it anyway. The industry didnt mind too much about analog medias because of the lost of quality when making copies of copies. But with the digital age, thats another story.

The problem is people dont respect those basic rules. If all people could do private copying within the law, the special tax on blank medias would compensate for it. But its so easy to distribute copies of digital material that its hurts the industry to the bone and really hurts sales. Be gradefull that we have an exception that allow us to make copies and try to respect the rules and everyone will be happy.

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Copy protection is part of the war the industry is making on the consumers. When FairUse was pass or Private Copying was pass in Canada, the insdustry still tried to prevent it by adding encryption.

The encryption laws were originally designs to protect digital information such has banking ATM traffic or military secrets. It then extend to the internet. This is why cracking protection is such a serious offence.

The moved to add copy protection on VHS and music CD's (and DVD's when the came out) to prevent the consumers from making private copies is borderline illegal. This is why courts are so soft on applying encryption laws when copies are made inside the "private copying exception".

When you do a copy of copy protected material inside the "private copying" frame, no copyrigh laws are broken. Therefore, the owner of the material cannot attempt civil actions. Criminal offences regarding copyrights are limited to the distributions of copies or counterfits. When you crack the protection of encryted data, you are making a criminal offense. That means the governement is the one that has to sue you. But, has I said, the courts are generally not pressing charges when the copies are made inside the fairuse laws.

Personnally, I think the industry should push the law enforcement agencies to get the smaller scale distribution networks. That means a bunch of students selling copies of console games, downloaded music or software. Instead of fighting FairUse, they should promote it. Make it clear of what you can or cannot do.

If someone think its always illegal to copy lets say a music CD, he will make no special effort to copy from an original. If everyone who makes copies would make an effort to copy from an original, a lot more originals would be sold. For example, 5 buddies could go out and buy one CD each and borrow them to makes copies to respect the law instead of all downloading MP3 from peer to peer sites.

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I only did extended research on Canadian laws since I am canadien. The copyright laws are very different from country to country indeed. The Canadien laws are closer to Germany and France laws than the US laws.

The most amazing thing is the discrepency between french and english copyright message on bilingual DVD's in Canada. The french governement force the insdustry to show the private copying exception in the copyright message on VHS and DVD's. Since the french copyright message and audio tracks are often ports of region 2 DVD's, they often keep the same "french" copyright message on Canadien DVD's. Whats odd is the english copyright message doesnt mention the private copy exception. The discrepency between the 2 messages on the same DVD is what made me look at the Canadien laws.

BTW if you have french audio tracks on some US DVD's, you may just have the private copying exception in the french copyright message even on US DVD's. The words to look for are those: "...toute reproduction, sauf pour l'usage personnel du copiste, ..."

[thxkid]

Well "mrbass" your wrong on Hafe-life my Voodoo 5500 will blow away those crappy nvidia cheap ass gforce cards, any under $200 that is, I have never seen so many people have so many problems with these cards, Voodoo's plug and play and go, no crashing, sorta like DVD2ONE, fast, no probs and does its job well and on my system I can't tell the original from the backup and thats on a JVC 36in, THX surround system. Maybe the quality of DVD2ONE depends on your entire computer system, though have to admit I think DVDxCOPY looks just as good and really alot faster.
have not had the chance to use Instant copy and will not until they can get it all down to under an hour, not tieing up my computer for hours on a $2 backup.

[jarvis1781]

@ Earthbulb

don't complain about Pinnacle because you don't know how to use something properly...or because you have a dinosaur of a computer.

InstantCopy works excellent!

The quality will ofcourse never compare with the likes of CCE...but for those people that don't know what they are doing it is easy for them to backup their movies.

Also, InstantCopy doesn't just copy DVD's!

I personally rip, reencode with CCE, and reauthor with Scenarist, keeping the original menu and features that I want.

Who cares what method anyone prefers really...it is all up to who wants to watch the movie.

But you can take your trash talk of Pinnacle elsewhere.....

[Doggiedaddy]

Remco
You are really having fun with this, no be honest, aren't you?

Dd
"Strength and Honor"
http://www.dvd9to5.com

[Remco]

Hey

what's wrong with a good discussion??!?!?
Ok ok, the thread subject may be a little offensive

But if you really wanna know, I always split my DVD9's into two DVD-R's :P - most movies are worth the 2x2,50euros

greets,
Remco

[gobama]

My version of Instant Copy 7 is 0.0.91 and the thing still don't work worth a crap. It errors out trying to process the files whether I rip them and open the .ifo or make the .iso with decryptor. So personally pinnacle can take a hike, because I spent good money on a "worthless" piece of software.

[dbaker6165]

My version of Instant Copy 7 is 0.0.91 and the thing still don't work worth a crap. It errors out trying to process the files whether I rip them and open the .ifo or make the .iso with decryptor. So personally pinnacle can take a hike, because I spent good money on a "worthless" piece of software.

you mean piece of schit...

[neonflx]

Instant copy is CRAP!!!!!!!!!
It shuts down while proccessing movie, other have experience the same , dvd2one has yet to dissapoint me, as far as the quality i have a 40 inch sony XBR800 and a 57 inch Hitachi SWX and I'm here to tell you i see no blockiness or artifacts and imho I'm the pickiest person in the world, I'm completely satisifed with dvd2one, of course is room for improvement as foe everything else however it sure as hell beats the crap out of instant copy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! my .02

Drink up and be Happy!1
I feel Bubbly!!!

[christophe]

nt....

[Bob W]

im sorry but i refuse to use anythign from Pinnacle ever again!

They are downright the worst company i have ever come across... And for anyone who's thinking of buying something from them and is not sure, i would strongly suggest you avoid them or at least fully inspect what you are buying under their name first cause chances are it wont work properly.

Instant copy isnt good, its a piece of shit like everythign else they make. They spend shitloads of cash on the graphic arts department to make it look shiny and the reality is the program or hardware itself is usually trash! you spend more time trying to make the crap work than you do actually using it!

If you do buy something from them and have a problem, dont expect any help from their tech support on the forum boards... You can expect to be asked what config your computer is (mobo,ram etc) then inevetibly you'll be told its a fault with your system, and then if you continue to try and get help and seem frustrated you will have your posts deleted. Then if you post at how pissed off you are cause someone deletes your posts you get kicked off the board alltoegther.... Hows that for customer service ??

I agree 100%. I had nothing but problems with Pinnacle and their non existent customer support trying to get their full of bugs program "Studio 8" just to do what they said it would do. I finally just gave up and removed the POS software from my computer.

I did try the Instant Copy demo and while it does seem to work it's took me 150 minutes to do the DVD "Ever After" while DVD2one did it in 15 minutes. Heck I could have backed up the movie and watched the entire movie with DVD2one and Instant copy would still be doing it's thing. Anyway I recorded the movie on DVD+RW using Instant Copy and also did another one using DVD2one. I'm no expert but the quality looked identical to me on my JVC big screen. Since Instant Copy takes so long it makes no sense buying fast 4x media may as well buy 1x or even 1/2x if they had such a thing.

The way I see it is DVD2one is fine for me and if I actually wanted the menu then I will use DVDX Copy and split the movie. That way I have the menu and extras plus original quality. Doing that is still faster than "Instant Copy".

[spiderman2k1]

I have never has problem's with Instant Copy 7 or DVD2ONE both work fine again never had a problem I copy ever thing. Never Had a problem with DVDXCOPY. DVD2DVD-R I have a problem with CCe and the Pull down but those bug's in the next release will be fixed I hope.

I just want to day your not breaking any law by coping TV show or movie's from Cable or Satellite Dish. About 20 year's when my Dad had HBO a payed movie channel they even told you to set your VCR for a movie to watch if you are not able to be home just let the VCR make a copy for you. Your not break the law by coping Music from the Radio. They even talk about this on www. TECHTV.com but Holly Wood is take another look at how they can change the rule's around iF I want to make a copy of Star Trek from the SCIFI channel of TNN I have to ask for permission by clicking on a PVR set top box that would have a hard drive. you click and I would like to record this episode and the box will say you do not permission to copy this show. It has nothing about the law's. There try to word thing in there favor. Kind of like if you left your house at 1am and you have school to go to a pizza shop you did not break the law your parent are going to be mad but you did not break the law you just did not have permission to go out that late. That's they best way I can tell you this but if you look into it. This new permission thing is very wacky

[gobama]

yeah, instant copy 7.0 won't work in my system because it doesn't meet the minimum requirements. But I'm saving it until I can build me something more up to date! 8)

[lepuppy]

I need help I am trying to bACKUP MY TV SHOW DVD. when I ripp it to hard driv all i get is analog copyright protection I have not had a problem with any previous ones. Instant copy is the only one that works with multiple shows on a dvd?

[FT Shark]

Get the latest version of DVD2One it does full disk back-ups.

[ddlooping]

Hi all.

I need help I am trying to bACKUP MY TV SHOW DVD.

Why don't you also try DVD Shrink?
It's free, and much more flexible than DVD2One.
(not need to rip the DVD first either)