Will the real Ritek G03 please stand up.

[hardwired]

I have been using what I believe are Ritek G03 DVD-R media purchased from SuperMediaStore. Nero CDSpeed reports manufacturer ID as RITEKG03 with no Code (ie "-"). These have pretty much worked and I can burn the entire disc no problem. These discs have silver tops and purple bottoms with no label. Here is the SuperMedia link I purchased from: http://www.supermediastore.com/ritekdvdrblankmedia.html

I purchased a 50 pack Ritek G03 from AllMediaOutlet and just received them. These look very different with white tops and purple bottoms and no label. CDSPeed reports the same RITEKG03 id also with no code. The first disc I burned 2Gig and it verified. The 2nd disc I burned 4.28GB and got an error on the verify of the last file (~140MB). So I am having my doubts as to what is really a genuine Ritek G03. The white labels on these have the look and feel of a flat white paint. They certainly didn't look like this in the AllMedia link where I purchased from: http://www.allmediaoutlet.com/P-DVD-R-4.7-R100free.html

These look more like the picture of the Princos:
http://www.allmediaoutlet.com/P-DVDR-4.7-GENPrinco.html

The other disturbing element is that whie the plastic was on the spindle it was cut all the way around at the bottom, and the discs did not fill the spindle. Left to flop around during shipment. Looks like a switcharoo to me.

Are manufacturers or even stores using fake ID's and substituting media at a whim?? Who can I trust these days? Their must be a better way to identify media.

[herbapou]

I think ritek makes both silver/purple and white/purple G03 medias.

But in your case, they could be fake indeed.

[hardwired]

I burned another one. Last 500MB failed verify.
These things are junk. Requesting an RMA from AllMediaOutlet for a refund of the remainder. I hope they stick to their guarantee.

I'll stick with SuperMediaStore and Hypermicro from now on. Wished Hypermicro still had the G03's as their closer to the east coast than SuperMedia for a much quicker ship.

[neonflx]

I purchased a spool of 50 dvd's silver top and purple, at the time they were bundle on a spool but had no label as far as what manufacturer made them, anyway they turn out to be Ritek 03 and i had no issues with them at all.

[hardwired]

Neon,

Agreed, no problem with silver tops from SuperMedia.
The white tops from Allmedia are junk.

[LanEvo7]

Hey, I have the same problems with my "ritek g03" media that I've ordered from allmedia. I just thought it was my authoring program at first but now it seems there is another answer. Not all the discs I burned are bad though, only 3/5 of them are. The last part of the disc is unreadable, by the dvd player....

[LanEvo7]

It might be just the media itself. If you check on dvd media list and click ritek primedisc, a couple people also have the same problem with not being able to read the last part of the disc.

[Faustus]

My ritek primedisc from shop4tech have been perfect.

[LanEvo7]

Ok, out of the 7 riteks I've used from allmedia, only 1 plays correctly till the end. The rest skip, don't play, I'm sending these back...

[dc91gt]

The Ritek G3's I ordered from supermediastore have been great (G3's).

Not a single play back error yet and I've burned 80 of the 100 pack.

Thats the only place I'll order from.

I ordered a 25 pack of supposed riteks from meritline and got leaddata. Never will i order from them again.

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[WLJ101]

http://netsoftmedia.com/

to hardwired: Do you mean the "Ritek DVD-R inkjet printable 4.7GB 100 PK" are the same "freak" DVD-Rs that you bought from AllMedia?


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[LanEvo7]

Their RMA claims can take up to two weeks!!! Thats crazy. That and you have to pick from the media there that might not even be better. I think Im just going to avoid burning the last 300mb or so.

I don't know about hardwired, but the kind I got from allmedia looks like this:

[DJMIKEY]

Not really happy with the 25 pack I got from supermedia. I think I have about 10 disc's that won't write. I test before I burn. Maybe my Sony doesnt like them. They were the E6 version disc. Got some coming from Rima that I will try and see if they all work. Can't complain too much "you always get what you pay for".

[Xblackout]

Interesting Topic here. I am not too sure how Nero CDspeed recognize the manufacture ID on the media. But I have been using DVDdecrypter to do verification on the manufacture code. So far all the disc i purchase from http://www.supermediastore.com & Http://www.shop4thech.com has been perfect. No problem at all.

I have pretty good experience with both store and have been purchasing from them since last christmas So far all the RitekG03 are coming out of of the dvddecrypter as the following

Manufacturer ID: RITEKG03



I really don't think they would want to do anything like that to really cheat off the customer. They even advertise on their site that their media are "authentic RitekG03"

But I have certainly notice that the couple shippment of Ritek i receive from both store has some sort of glue on the edge of each media. I think that is more of a manufacture problem.

[hardwired]

LanEvo,
Yes the Ritek's I received from Allmedia look exactly like that with the white tops (ie Printable?).

Since there seems to be some confusion: I have had no problems filling the disc on the Ritek G03 from Supermediastore that have silver tops using my Pioneer 105. The Allmedia's with the white tops have difficulty over 4GB on the few I tried. Sounds like the Riteks from Allmedia may be legit but not A grade.

I'm afraid to burn less than 4GB max to these Allmedia G03's only to find out in 6 months they no longer hold their data...

I'm using Nero (v5.5.9) to burn and the later version of Nero CDSpeed as recommended by members here for manufacturer ID.

[LanEvo7]

Oh good we have the same burner too. Well what are you going to do with them if you don't use them? If you send it back there's nothing there you can take, unless you like Princo. Their taiyo yuden's are out of stock and I don't trust lead data either... If you want a refund you'll lose around $15.

[jez1]

I bought a 25 pack Ritek G03's from Allmedia about a week ago and I too have problems burning. I use RecordNow Max and it burns 100% complete but when played in my stand alone its skips in the middle and end of the movie. I also tried with Maxells and they seem to play fine only there pretty expensive. So I think I'll give Supermedia a try.

[LanEvo7]

The crap they are selling is B Grade media. Thats why they were the only ones who had it when everybody was out.

[Seraphic]

I just sent an e-mail to a contact at Ritek about this.

I will post their reply when I get it.

I tried to order the clear centers that have the same lead-in data info as the silver top riteks but I could not get any assurances from vendors of what batch of printable Ritek G03 they would sell me.

00 42 00 00 01 40 C1 FD 9E D8 50 00 02 79 0E 0B .B...@....P..Y..
FE FF 80 00 03 52 49 54 45 4B 47 00 04 30 33 00 .....RITEKG..03.
00 00 00 00 05 88 80 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 ................

[Tikkanen]

netsoftmedia.com is out of the Ritek DVD-R 4.7GB 100pk.

[oldfart13]

There seems to be a little thing called "overhead" on DVDs which appears to be different from batch to batch. I've found that the white top Riteks burn just great for me so long as I take this into account. If I rip a movie, I make sure it fits under 4 Gig and with data, under 4.36 Gig. No problems to report. People are thinking these things are like floppies or CDs. Heck, even my hard drive has overhead. It's rated at 80 Gig but it never formats higher than 75 Gig. Just don't try to burn every last sector and you should be okay...

[LanEvo7]

DVD-R, DVD+R, and CD are supposed to be rated with a minor "overhead" if thats what you want to call it. So if it says 4.3 gigs, then it should burn 4.3 fully plus there should be a couple mbs left for overhead.
The reason your 80gig hard drive won't report over 75 is because, the 80 gig is an estimate. The actual drive size could be from anywhere between 75 gigs and 81 gigs. And because part of the hard drive cannont be used to store data because it tells the system what type of partition you have, what format it is in, etc.
Besides why is it my taiyo yudens do not need "overhead"? They burn all the way to the edge without a hitch.

[Seraphic]

Your storagedrive or mediawill always be smaller than the size quoted when you bought the disk because the computer uses multiples of 1024 in calculating kilobytes, megabytes, and gigabytes whereas the manufacturers use multiples of 1000 so as to make the disk appear bigger than it really is. This gets more noticeable as disk drives get bigger. A one gigabyte drive would be reported by drive manufacturers as 1.073 gigabytes and make it look like the drive holds 73 megabytes more than it really does. A drive that the manufacturers quote as 80 gigabytes is really only 74.5 gigabytes.

If the reported size is still smaller than the size you expected even when you take this into account it still doesn't necessarily mean that you have been cheated as the unformatted drive size is always quoted by the drive manufacturer whereas once you format the drive some space is taken up by the file formatting and the operating system reports the resultant formatted size. You can't blame the drive manufacturers for this one because the formatted size varies depending on the file system that you use to format the drive and the drive manufacturer doesn't know which you will use. The formatted drive size should not be significantly smaller than the true unformatted size.