DVD2One quality? Plz make fair comparisons! NTSC only! 1 dvd

[dvasco]

Reading peoples posts the best quality encoder seems to be Tmpgenc, of which I am a big fan, then CCE, and all others dead last. Time is not an issue, I leave the encoding on a dedicated computer overnight and while at work. Number of processes is a big issue. Not having to burn a lot of DVD coasters and fooling around with settings is also an issue.
Therefore is the quality of dvd2one so bad that it is worth going through all the processes of using multiple programs? Please post fair comparisons arguing which programs to use.

[tdemaree]

well I have used dvd2one and it does a great job, I backed up The Green Mile and that is a 3 hour movie, with great quality, also did American Pie 2, its like 1hr 40 min, with excellent quality, almost perfect in my eyes..Plus it is fast compared to other methods, Great software and simple to use.

[wulf109]

I've used CCE for quite a while and I've encoded the same single disk with CCE and DVD2ONE. Then A/B compared them from different DVD players,switching between them on the same TV. There is practically no difference. There may be a slight graininess to the DVD2ONE copy which you will seee if you look for a difference.
I just converted a Sopranos TV epeisode disk with DVD2ONE and A/B compared the DVD2ONE copy against the original DVD and I can't see any difference. DVD2ONE works. If you spent $2000.00 for a legal copy of CCE you not very likely to like a $43.00 program that's faster and equal.

[spiderman2k1]

I like DVD2ONE. i never real was a big fan of TMPG for DVD and SVCD very blocky I am a CCE fan and now I love DVD2ONE. I say give DVD2one a try and see if you like it

[disturbed1]

You really have to compare which one you value more. Time or quality.

The quality from DVD2One is nowhere close to what you'd get from CCE, or even TMPG.

But nothing else can encode the God Father disc 1 (8 Vobs 3 hours plus) in under 30 minutes.

As far as quality goes, I'd say it's about SVCD level. I compared 3 DVD sources of old SVCD rips I did. (I used avisynth a couple of filters, and CCE 4 pass encoding)

Training Day, Apostle, Superman IV The Quest for Piece.

The SVCD of Training Day was a great deal better than DVD2Ones. Apostle, and Superman were only slightly better.

I also put Training Day on DVD-R with CCE, there is no quality comparison between the two. After watching the original DVD, CCE's DVD, and DVD2One's, I promptly earsed DVD2One's DVD-RW.

I recently backed up Jesus Of Nazerth (385 minutes 2 DVDs) with DVD2One. It did a fairly good job on this. Not as good as CCE, but both discs were encoded and burnt in 3 hours. I did spot encodes with CCE on this DVD, although CCE looked better (not much), DVD2One was a great compromise between quality and time.

For the price of the software, it's worth adding it to your collection, but I'd use your other methods when quality is the most important issue. Of course certain films will look better or worse with DVD2One depending on the original quality, source content, and length.

I do find it unfar to compare DVD2One against CCE as they are intended for different purposes. DVD2One does what it is advertised to do, and it does it very well.

[simmons3d]

For me the AUDIO has always been a pain in the a$$. I want my 5.1!! With Tnmpeg you are multiplexing and muxing and trying to find an authoring program that will accept 5.1, only to have your finished product go out of sync. Not any more! DVD2ONE looks as good as tnmpeg to me, BUT SOUNDS 100X BETTER.

Also for dual layer discs where the movie itself is less than 4.36gb it is much faster than IFOedit. It does in 4mins what takes IFOedit 20.

[dvasco]

With Tnmpeg you are multiplexing and muxing and trying to find an authoring program that will accept 5.1, only to have your finished product go out of sync. Not any more! DVD2ONE looks as good as tnmpeg to me, BUT SOUNDS 100X BETTER.

Is there really an audio sync problem with Maestro? I was hoping I would be able to use Tmpgenc and Maestro if dvd2one is as bad as a lot of people claim.
Also time is not an issue, number of processes is. I only want to have to go through a few steps, but yet have good quality.

[dvasco]

You really have to compare which one you value more. Time or quality.

I value not having to go through multiple processes. Encoding time is NOT an issue. However your assessment makes it sound like dvd2one is not worth the ease. Worse than SVCD? Man, that's half the bitrate yet its better than dvd2one? I can understand why people are putting it down.
Readers, plz keep posting your comparisons.

[JasonK]

"I do find it unfar to compare DVD2One against CCE as they are intended for different purposes."

It's not unfair to compare them. That's how you find out the strengths and weaknesses of when to use one vs the other. What is unfair is to expect DVD2ONE to encode with the same quality as CCE.

Someone posted that they heard TMPGenc encodes better quality than CCE. I don't recall anyone posting that. If so, then they are likely not configuring CCE correctly. However, both can produce outstanding quality DVD which is very close.

[dun4cheap]

I see alot of good replies here. The truth betold there are many factors. It has little todo with the time of the movie. If the original movie is encoded at a really high bit rate that excedes 7 gig, then you may want to use the tmppg or cce methods. If its below 7 gig than you will probably never notice a difference. In the future you will have options to split the disc, do the hole disc and the ability to select the end result size wise. There is no doubt in my mind that DVD2ONE is a powerful tool and well worth the $40, but that does not mean you don't want to keep those other tools.

DVD2ONE Projects

Titanic= Good Quality
Gladiator = Good Quality
TimeMachine=Great Quality
MIB2=Great Quality

These are all better than VHS and SVCD quality. I couldn't stand the VCD quality and always questioned the SVCD quality. So I just kept all my videos in DVD quality on my HD until I finally got a DVD Burner.

[ibanez78]

i have a question, can you keep the anamorphic picture in CCE, i know in tmpgenc you can't, and for my people like me who don't have hdtv's yet being able to watch a movie on my tv now and then eventually on a widescreen tv makes dvd2one the only choice

[jarvis1781]

yes you can keep the anamorphic picture in TMPGEnc...
however in reply to the fact that TMPGEnc comes before CCE in quality...that is definitely wrong...not only does CCE produce much better results...it does it in less time

[dvasco]

Great help so far. I would like to add that I don't want to have end up redoing a backup because the first backup was subpar.
dun4cheap, you say that dvd2one is better than SVCD while disturbed1 says that it is not as good. How can we get on the same page? How can we calibrate our ratings? I do understand that the longer the movie and the more action and colors there are the worse the quality will be at 4.3GB. I think maybe we should use a movie that is picky for comparison. Gladiator maybe, not Titanic I am not a fan of love stories, or another great film with action. Maybe something with more colors too. Any ideas.
Keep posting everyone.

[dvasco]

however in reply to the fact that TMPGEnc comes before CCE in quality...that is definitely wrong...not only does CCE produce much better results...it does it in less time

I never wrote that this is a fact, "Reading peoples posts the best quality encoder seems to be Tmpgenc" I am happy people are placing their opinion about the two encoders. Once I start doing successful backups I will do a fair comparison of the two based on quality only, not time.

[disturbed1]

dun4cheap, you say that dvd2one is better than SVCD while disturbed1 says that it is not as good. How can we get on the same page?
Keep posting everyone.

I think that pretty much explains it. It boils down to what YOU want/need.

Gladiator would be a decent test film for you to try. Get the free trial and give it a whirl, then tell us what you think.

Quality is nothing more than one's thought. There is no hardcore right or wrong.

There are many members that are satisfied with the results of VCD. I know people that can't see the huge quality difference between VHS and DVD.

I think VCD in most cases is worse than VHS.

Right or wrong, it's your perception that counts.

MIB2=Great Quality

MIB2 is less than 4 gigs movie only. DVD2One doesn't encode if the movie is this small.

[simmons3d]

I used DVD2ONE to back up "Casino" which is a 3 hour dual layer film. I also have a tmpgenc back up and compared the two on my Toshiba 43". Very little difference, however there is a scene early in the film with lots of lights and people walking (casino entrance) and DVD2ONE actually seems to have handled it better. Less apparent blockiness. I never was all that confident in tmpgenc's 2 pass vbr.

[dvasco]

I think that pretty much explains it. It boils down to what YOU want/need.
Gladiator would be a decent test film for you to try. Get the free trial and give it a whirl, then tell us what you think.
There are many members that are satisfied with the results of VCD. I know people that can't see the huge quality difference between VHS and DVD.
I think VCD in most cases is worse than VHS.
Right or wrong, it's your perception that counts.

MIB2=Great Quality

MIB2 is less than 4 gigs movie only. DVD2One doesn't encode if the movie is this small.

Great reply. Yes, it is my perception that counts. I do not like VCD, I do settle for SVCD but want better.
The dvd2one trial only does 30 minutes. Not long enough to really know.
The NTSC system is very limited so it is understandable why people don't see much of a difference between VHS and DVD. TV only gives about 480x480 anyway. The quality loss in DVD is the compression. No compression with VHS. That's another subject anyway.
And yes, there is no reason to comment on movies that do not entail reencoding.
I think the Casino example was a good one.

Plz keep posting people.

[dun4cheap]

Well you guys certainly have tried to make this a battle between encoders and transcoders. The Video will be better with DVD2ONE, CCE, and TMPPG encoder over any VCD or SVCD for DVD. This is due to a higher resolution and Bit rate. Now comparing to XVCD may be another story because you can have higher bitrates.


"The dvd2one trial only does 30 minutes. Not long enough to really know."

Why is 30minutes not enough to tell. What you see is what you get. It uses the same transcoding compression rate in the 30minutes as if it was the full length movie. Were you not impressed by the video quality. If not than you should go the alternate route CCE or TmpMPG..

[neonflx]

Opinios are like A-Holes everyone has one, if you want a fair comparison , DO IT YOURSELF!! what looks great to someone might look bad to someone else, guess why Basking Robins has 31 flavors cause not everyone likes Vanilla, get my point!! there are too many variables, TV, DVD player, ambient light, etc,etc,etc. if it looks good in your set, Don't worry be happy if it soesn't then find an alternative way plaing and freaking simple!!

[dvasco]

Opinios are like A-Holes everyone has one, if you want a fair comparison , DO IT YOURSELF!!

If you don't want to give a comparison then don't. PENDEJO.

[dvasco]

"The dvd2one trial only does 30 minutes. Not long enough to really know."
Why is 30minutes not enough to tell. What you see is what you get. It uses the same transcoding compression rate in the 30minutes as if it was the full length movie.

Because, the true action scenes, or other scenes, needing lots of quality or lower compression are not always in the first 30 minutes.
Only people who want to give a fair comparison plz keep posting.

[neonflx]

Is not that I do not want to give my opinion, everything I done wit DVD2ONE looks great, on my setup, not to say that you would have the same results then again i could sell you my set for about 5200.00 and then it would look awesome, but what can one expect from someone that call another human being , "pubic hair' (pendejo=pubic hair) his level of intelligence is off the scale !!!!!!!!!




In the minus sign hahaha

[Scarpad]

Disturbed1, if you think that the quality your seeing from DVDone is about the same as SVCD disks that you created, then you login name fits you perfect.

[dvasco]

Is not that I do not want to give my opinion, everything I done wit DVD2ONE looks great, on my setup, but what can one expect from someone that call another human being , "pubic hair' (pendejo=pubic hair) his level of intelligence is off the scale !!!!!!!!!

In the minus sign hahaha

Where in the hell did you get that dictionary? Spanish for dummies? Anyway I got your opinion on dvd2one, which is all I wanted anyway.

[dvasco]

Guys, don't take it personal if your opinions don't match. Just post your opinion. Nicely!!!! Please!!!!!

[jarvis1781]

lol...dvasco i agree with you

pendejo most certainly doesn't mean pubic hair

some people are dumb as dirt

[neonflx]

It does from where I come from, PR, Lating language has many derivate dialects, can help it it the wetbags call it something different!!

[alenhard]

Oye dvasco- no seas grosero! Puede que hay ninos aqui! (neonflx)

En cuanto a lo que pienso de DVD2ONE- es bueno y te lo recomiendo mucho. Muy sencillo y RAPIDO.
Buena calidad.

[alenhard]

NEONFLX-
Racism is okay? I for one am highly offended. That is not acceptable!

[dvasco]

It's wetback not wetbag. Don't forget we outnumber you boricuas. Where do the Puerto Rican and other Latin singers and actors go to become famous. MEXICO.