forty-two ac3 problems: apology :(

[KaiCherry]

I would like to apologize, here and now, to everyone that wasted time and space on the dvd-dvd stuff, and for the frustration caused.

I really screwed the pooch there due to a stupid stupid stupid methodology flaw.

Its been fixed and will be in the new release.

HOWEVER, please watch this post. I will patch the current version with the fix and put up a new forty-two.app, probably within the hour, if not early tomorrow.

Again. I'm really sorry about this. My bad.

-K

[KaiCherry]

http://homepage.mac.com/kaicherry/42-fixed.dmg

Again. Please accept my apology for the time wasted :/

Just toss out the old app, and replace it with this one.

The preview will probably be a bit less interesting the the previous version...sorry about that Its the first minute of the second chaper of your source dvd.

And, if by some BIZZARE chance your dvd does not have a chapter two in the title you are transcoding, you won't get a preview.

I would have done the first min of chapter one, but thats usually just credits


-K

[squeed]

Great, thanks. I thought that I was going crazy. Dude, no need to apologize. The whole MAC community loves you guys right now. This is what we have all been waiting for.

Finally after about 2 years of trying the band-aid approach we now have a tool that is actually better than what our PC friends have.

-Squeed

[KaiCherry]

Finally after about 2 years of trying the band-aid approach we now have a tool that is actually better than what our PC friends have.
-Squeed

Almost...almost. Its funny...the biggest problem with forty-two (the one you have) is that, like most of the stuff out there, its *still* a bit too PC-Like.

If you wanna see what NOT to do, take a look at the *excellent* but *hopelessly confusing* DVD2SVCD/AVI stuff at doom9.org. It works, but MAN! Or the vStrip Windows GUI...HUH? Or even some Mac stuff thats out now...

The thing is, the way unix tools work, the more powerful the tool, the more switches there are to control it, right?

Well, with transcoding and video conversion, several tools are envolved, each with their own degree of complexity.

As we learned from nice fellow named Darrin Filer, designing a good GUI is *not easy* and he was kind enough to show us the benfits of his training in this regard...thanks D!

You'll see me type "diminishing returns" a lot. Things like this are a perfect example; there is a natural balance to be struck between power, features and functionality; once your software becomes 8 screens deep, or on 5-7 tabs with a myriad of choices to make, you'd probably be better off using the commandline anyway. You've only solved the "accessability" problem of using the evil, dreaded shell, but certainly you haven't solved the "ease-of-use" part of having GUI's in the first place.

Its like killing a fly with a sledgehammer. fourty-two is basically designed to do one thing, and we hope do it well: Create transcoded video streams in popular formats, *in sync*, in the most Mac-like way we can manage with our limited skills

We are *almost* there now.

-K

[peckinpah]

Thanks for the fix Kai. I was hoping it would help me get past this problem, ripping a Korean DVD (Oasis) with subtitles. Here's the terminal text until it just stops:

ccode: en
Volume /Volumes/DVDVolume unmounted
Precaching for Analysis...
STATUS: Phase 1 Analysis
STATUS: Encoding at NTSC Video Frame Rate to insure proper Sync
STATUS: Phase 2 Analysis
STATUS: Detected WideScreen content; Adjusting output profile for DVD
STATUS: Encoding 1-Pass Test Clip at your Requested Quality
11:37AM up 26 mins, 3 users, load averages: 0.39, 0.54, 0.46
STATUS: Checking Audio Format...
looking for ac3 5:1
looking for ac3 stereo
looking for ac3 2-channel
alang: -alang en
STATUS: Good...AC3 Audio...We will continue.
STATUS: Done...extracting Video...
INFO: [yuvscaler] yuvscaler (version 1.7.0) is a general scaling utility for yuv frames
INFO: [yuvscaler] (C) 2001-2002 Xavier Biquard <xbiquard@free.fr>
INFO: [yuvscaler] yuvscaler -h for help, or man yuvscaler


after that it just isn't doing anything (my CPU meter goes back to zilch), and even if i wait 4 hours, the rip no longer continues. Any ideas?

[KaiCherry]

Thanks for the fix Kai. I was hoping it would help me get past this problem, ripping a Korean DVD (Oasis) with subtitles. Here's the terminal text until it just stops:

ccode: en
Volume /Volumes/DVDVolume unmounted
Precaching for Analysis...
STATUS: Phase 1 Analysis
STATUS: Encoding at NTSC Video Frame Rate to insure proper Sync
STATUS: Phase 2 Analysis
STATUS: Detected WideScreen content; Adjusting output profile for DVD
STATUS: Encoding 1-Pass Test Clip at your Requested Quality
11:37AM up 26 mins, 3 users, load averages: 0.39, 0.54, 0.46
STATUS: Checking Audio Format...
looking for ac3 5:1
looking for ac3 stereo
looking for ac3 2-channel
alang: -alang en
STATUS: Good...AC3 Audio...We will continue.
STATUS: Done...extracting Video...
INFO: [yuvscaler] yuvscaler (version 1.7.0) is a general scaling utility for yuv frames
INFO: [yuvscaler] (C) 2001-2002 Xavier Biquard <xbiquard@free.fr>
INFO: [yuvscaler] yuvscaler -h for help, or man yuvscaler


after that it just isn't doing anything (my CPU meter goes back to zilch), and even if i wait 4 hours, the rip no longer continues. Any ideas?

Yeah...wait for the next release If its doing *nothing* at this point it is most likely the case that the mpeg2enc encoder isn't running; there are several posts explaining how you can fix this in the inerim. Check the "forty-two" download thread.

As for that Korean...

That output tells me that its going to use audio from a track that specifies itself as English.

With the way so many dvds are sloppily authored, its probably Korean, anyway

-K

[WiseWeasel]

Here's a mirror, just in case: http://homepage.mac.com/wiseweasel/42-fixed.dmg. If people can spare an idisk or some bandwidth, they could mirror this, and the authors could post to versiontracker, so the masses could get a taste of this.

[pants]

ok i got the new version, dvd to dvd with
english subs but now on my preview clip there are no subs with the video, and in the previous 42 there were subs in the preview (i using a dvd i used with the previous 42 too where the subs were there on prview) so is this bad? or is it just that this new version doesn't show the subs on preview now?

thanks

[KaiCherry]

ok i got the new version, dvd to dvd with
english subs but now on my preview clip there are no subs with the video, and in the previous 42 there were subs in the preview (i using a dvd i used with the previous 42 too where the subs were there on prview) so is this bad? or is it just that this new version doesn't show the subs on preview now?

thanks

That is odd...

I'll look into it later today or early tomorrow.

-K

[squeed]

I don't think that the DVD to DVD is working. I tried it today using the fixed version and it got stuck at the muxing portion.

-Squeed

[Eug]

Thanks for the fix.

I might just wait for the new 1.0 beta though before I get started again at this. Got some party videos to edit.