Anyone tried DVD2ONE?

[tommyoz]

Quick program but still not the answer i am looking for. Like the report said "it only does the movie", If my source is DVD5 then this program is useless, i'm better off with DVDXCopy. If my source is DVD9 and want everything including extras this can't be done with DVD2One and at this time can only be done on 2 disk.
Also since you still have to rip it first, just rip the movie with DVDDecrypter and burn. So i'm still waiting.
Come on Pinnacle.

[gobama]

Nice site there, BK. 8) I might just try your method using CCE just to see how good it works. My machine is way old, a 450 P2 but maybe CCE will work it will only take more than 8 hours hehe

[dun4cheap]

I am sure Erwin is busy just by his response..

I wrote:

> First of I want to say great job. Secondly I was wondering if you were going to add a progress page for updates, possible release date, and current versions listed. One last thing what are the chances of you replying to a few posts in the www.vcdhelp.com forum. I believe your product already has a topic with over 120 posts and all very positive, but a lot of speculation what is realy being done.

He Wrote:

Actually I am trying to survive ...

Best regards,
Erwin van den Berg

[SyCo]

Is it possible to use DVD2ONE with an external decrypter ? I mean is there a way to "serve" an encrypted DVD like a virtual one directly into DVD2one ? (I dont want to dump the movie to my hard drive first)

That would be a lot faster !!


btw: I already know the author did not include it in the prog because of legal reasons that is why I want and external method of "serving" the DVD.

[Styro]

Just copied "Bourne Identity" and "Blood Work" and they look great. This program is amazing. Now I have a new ranking for DVD archival methods...

1 - DVDecrypter / DVD2One / Nero
1 - DVDecrypter / IfoEdit / ReMPEG2 / Nero
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45 - DVD2DVDR
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50 - TMPGenc or CCE methods

Yep, got a tie going on. Only reasons why DVD2One beats ReMPEG2 methods is due to time (ReMPEG2 taking 5 to 8 hours), steps envolved, and quality (ReMPEG2 sometimes produces some huge block/pixelation errors (try "Reign of Fire").
DVD2DVDR is a nice automated setup. But for me it has only produced video that can be used on the PC. Playback on standalone has all sorts of background flashing (intro flyover in "Insomnia"), and strange edge lines during strong action (interlace problems?). I've tried multiple encoder options then gave up.
TMPGEnc/CCE methods follow same quality issues as with DVD2DVDR then add complex steps to mixture. I could probably test TMPGenc more, but I've got two good methods and limited time/diskspace so...

[NYPlayer]

Bk,

DVD2DVDR is a great tool if you are doing PAL, it's a nightmare if you are doing NTSC.

1. The gop structure setup on the ECL is wrong to import to Scenarist.
2. Ifoedit is no good to author NTSC films
3. You have to manually rip the Subtitles and Chapters if you are using DVDmaestro. This leads to sync issues and chapters being unable to import.
4. The Script created by DVD2DVDR is no good for NTSC, It defaults to the Pal template in scenarist.

[dbaker6165]

Some people that complain about quality in this forum needs to get a reality check. First of all if you really cared about the the quality of a movie you would not be copying the movie you would just go to FYE or Walmart and buy the movie. Thats the only way you will ever get the best quality in a movie with menus and special features. You all should understand that a copy will all ways be a copy and you should never expect the best when you copy something. Now when I use DVD2one, I didnt expect it to be as good as the origional. I copied Lord of the Rings recently with DVD2One and played it on my friends 34in hdtv sony vega tv. The movie looked fine - you could see some artifacts on some scenes in the movie but we seen the same artifacts in the origional copy of Lord of the rings because mpeg-2 isnt perfect, even if you buy the movie on dvd!

[energy80s]

I agree that if you want perfect quality, buy the original. No method of reducing the bitrate (which is what all these programmes are doing) will equal the quality of the original. Also, what are the results like from DVD2One when compared with TMPGenc? I would never use CCE for encoding as it doesn't do what I need in a user friendly way so always use TMPG. Compared with a re-encode using TMPG's DVD template at, say, 6mbps CQ85, what is the transcode quality like of D2O?

[Styro]

Bk,

DVD2DVDR is a great tool if you are doing PAL, it's a nightmare if you are doing NTSC.


2. Ifoedit is no good to author NTSC films

OK, so DVD2DVDR should only be used on PAL - makes sense considering what I've seen.

What problems, beside time-code/stamp issues, exist for authoring NTSC files using IfoEdit? I've authored plenty of NTSC disc using IfoEdit and have not noticed an problems.

While it is true that you are never going to get equal quality from a DVD copy (if any transcoding is done), you should be trying to get the highest quality possible. DVD2One and ReMPEG2 produce great quality, should you have to transcode. If you are after perfect quality - go buy another copy.

[herbapou]

It pretty easy to use the DVD2DVDR/CCE/DVDMaestro trio with NTSC movies if you dont do subtitles.

The only thing you need to do after DVD2DVDR is done is to extract chapters with ChapterXtractor and it takes about 1 min to do. Authoring with DVDMaestro is a piece of cake once you know what to do.

Lots of people in here try to use tools without even reading basic guides or instructions. Take for example DVD2one, the author made a very short and simple guide on is site and yet, you have people in here asking very basic questions about a braindead to use program. Read the guides please...

[jxsam1@yahoo.com]

Its only Time vs Quality.

I totally agree with this statement!

-BK-

http://users.pandora.be/DVD2DVD-R

I do not agree! It's $2000 v $40. I don't have $2000 to burn on a software encoder such as CCE. The $40 I could live with.

[Smurff]

All,

Just baught it (and thats very un-usual for me - was a cracker in my youth )

The way I look at it. If it does 75% of my movies to a watch`able quality then its worth the money. I consider messing around with 2 or 3 programs than waiting (nth) hours just to find out that some look crap, is worth more than £50.

There will always be people wanted perfect dvd quality every time but thats not me.
Good program and a good price, well done!
Regards
Smurff

[OcTroN]

Its only Time vs Quality.

I totally agree with this statement!

-BK-

http://users.pandora.be/DVD2DVD-R

I do not agree! It's $2000 v $40. I don't have $2000 to burn on a software encoder such as CCE. The $40 I could live with.

You have got such a good point over here! I agree!

[NYPlayer]

herbapou

I know very well how to use the tools. I always like to keep all my subtitles in all my movies. So using DVDMaestro can be a nightmare. DVD2one does all I want, which is keep the main movie the english soundtrack and "ALL" subtitles.

[strangezero]

Just finished watching MUHOLLAND DRIVE (PAL VERSION)...

1st ORIGINAL
2nd FROM DVD2DVDR
3d FROM DVD2ONE

The video from dvd2one was B A D.... i mean in the closing scene (shot in the bed) it has BAD PICTURE QUALITY even noticable in a 14" Tv monitor...

This doesn't happen from the dvd2dvdr....

So i'll use dvd-9 to 2 dvd-r for PERFECT COPIES, dvd-9 to 1 dvd-r with DVD2ONE for fast copies of low quality or not so often watch movies and DVD2DVDR for QUALITY COPIES of dvd-9 dvd's....

This is my conclusion of using those methods

(sorry for my poor english)

[NYPlayer]

Styro

Be careful although you might think all is well when you author with ifoedit you might be in for a surprise.

PS . When I use ifoedit to author NTSC films with pulldown my PS2 stutters like crazy. If I use DVDmaestro or scenarist it plays pefectly.


See thread below.

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=f9a12cdc8e40a387b6c94ddf6d4d505b&threadid=4158...ht=ifoedit+bug

[cchitson11]

I really like the sound of this program and I 'm might purchase it. I have a quick question. Anyone who has made a backup of a movie with force subs when there's a foriegn language spoken (such as xXx, BlackHawk Down, Star wars I or II) Does it keep the Forced subs on ? I have had alot of problems with this issue. If it does I have just purchased a copy, if not I'll wait.

[Ciuko]

I've tried it:

Adv ->
1) Ultra Fast Conversion Time
2) Low Price
3) Good for newbie people 8)

Disadv ->
1) Low Quality
2) NO OPTIONS!!!!
3) Newbie only!!



In short:

Backupping a DVD is ONE TIME task ... so i want best quality ever.
Then i choose CCE ... 6 hours spent well!
If you like "QUANTITY" then buy DVD2ONE.

See ya! :P

[mysterio1]

Ill stick with DVDXCOPY I want menu's not just the movie, maybe in the next DVD2ONE he will add those options maybe Ill buy then.

[DVC2]

So far I've tried dvd2one on 4 movies of different lengths and would like to comment.

First I'll say to people comparing encodequality of a 40$ 15 min transcode and ready to burn kinda thing to a 2000$ 18hour cce encoding/chapterextractor/subripping/maestroauthoring and so forth kinda thing for complete and utter braindead idiots - no offence of cource

It kinda stands to reason and common sence that given the time and swet put into it - the last way of doing things inevitably would give better results, the difference getting bigger the longer (more difficult) the movie.


BUT, you are completely missing the point. This is not a qualitycontest - if you really are that big qualityfreaks - you should get a life and go buy the darn original dvd instead And if you really are that big qualityfreaks you should know that any downsampling will reduce quality - and the more you have to lower the bitrate because of the length of the movie the more difficult it gets and the more work you have to put into using your tools to get good results. Therefore immediately feeding dvd2one the longest most difficult movie and comparing single frame screenshots of extremely different spots in the movie with your best and most optimized previous methods is pure BS.

This is not about getting the best possible quality - what this is about is the fact that you without any knowledge of optimizing cce or other softencoders, any geniality in knowing to use ifoedit or the wast amount of other tools and money spent, are able to create a perfectly acceptable more or less downsampled copy in only 15-30 min at almost no cost !!!!!! This is so easy that I can teach my grandmother and let her do the copying for me. This is about the fact that no matter how much you compare - if you feed dvd2one a reasonable task like a movie not much longer than 2 hours - you will get absolutely acceptable watchable quality.
Not the best quality you have ever seen on this earth - but a quality so good that 80% of the viewers would never be able to tell the difference once the movie is running. Like a previous wise poster said - you dont watch a movie in pausemode or in screenshotmode on your computermonitor - you watch the movie on your TV and if the movie is good enough the actual story of the movie will be the important part - not if you are able to distinguise between 25 or 27 grassstraws when you zoom in 4 times.

If the movie really is that important to you that you need the absolute highest possible quality - and you spend thousands of $ on superhighquality equipment like big screen HD Tv's and so on, then you would naturally buy the original and not rip that movie at all. If you dont - then you are simply a bunch of hypocratic fools. The quality I have seen from dvd2one so far beats the hell out of lots and lots of the halfwitted trys I've seen others do using all the right tools - but not knowing how to use them proper - and still they are happy about them. Or what about all the crappy vcd, svcd that people create and think is brilliant.

Like I started out saying - I have made 4 rips with dvd2one so far - and all were perfectly acceptable in quality. I would like to point out that I have been doing all kinds of ripping, encoding, transcoding, converting, capturing and what ever you can think off for several years - I know the game - and have very high qualitydemands on the things I make for myself.
Im not saying I would use dvd2one for everything - certainly not - but for your average 1.50 hour movie that you watch a few times - but simply cannot rip free of that last 200-300mb that prevents a true copy to 1 dvd-r, dvd2one will do a very nice and fast job - period

It will let you rip the wanted movie, audio and subtitle, retaining chapters and create a ready to burn folder with ifos, bups and vobs in "not supergreat but acceptable" quality for most movies in absolutely no time.
And it will let you do it even if you have not spend countless hours, days, years learning all there is to know about this subject.

Thats what its about

[jxsam1@yahoo.com]

Hi DVC2..

Extremely well put and I can't agree with you more!!!

I've been preaching the same thing for a while now. I have nothing against re-encoding using CCE or TMPGEnc Plus. If that's the method you like to choose, then go ahead. What I can't stand is that people take the quality test WAAAAYYYY out of proportion. Especially the pausing and zooming and using widescreen tv and sitting certain inches from the tv and paying very very close attention to the background of non-moving objects and so on and so forth and then come out with the decision that DVD2ONE is not good, the quality is horrible.

I am sure in future releases of DVD2ONE, it will get better.

If the movie is so valuable to you for the need to spend countless DAYS of 10-pass VBR CCE or TMPGEnc, go buy yourself another perfect copy and PERIOD!!!

By the way DVC2 - does that stand for Dazzle Video Creator 2?

[mikef07]

The quality on this sucks. How can you people like this program? I took my TV apart, sat upside down inside the tube, with the picture inverted using infra red glasses on 48X Zoom and I think I saw a pixel. THis software is going back. This is just unacceptable.




I hope people realize I am kidding.

[DVC2]

By the way DVC2 - does that stand for Dazzle Video Creator 2?

Sure does


and mikef07 - whow did you actually spot that darn pixel
Gees - my copy of dvd2one will be sent back immediately and I will certainly demand a refund of my money - the least one can demand from a 40$ 15min software is that it as a minimum will create a 100% perfect pixel to pixel copy - even if it has to downsample a 4 hour movie to an average bitrate of less then 2mbit to fit on a dvd-r

[mikef07]

Pixel was spotted in top most left hand corner, but only when wearing infra red glasses standing on my head. If I am sitting normally it is fine, but you never know when you will be watchin a movie standing on your head. BTW.

I have now done 2 movies with this program. I just did "Signs" with DVD2ONE, CCE, and of course original. I then took 5 frame sample points randomly. I cannot tell the difference in any. If I took a magnifying glass I could find differences. I also had a friend come in and say which he thought looked the best. Each time he chose I mixed them up and had him choose again. There was no clear cut winner. he chose different ones throught the comparison. Sometimes he felt the DVD2one looked better, other times, CCE, and others the original. I think the true test is if a random person were to walk in would they say that your DVD looks strange. I don't think so using any of these programs. For me I will most likely use DVD2One for movies from 4.4GB to 7GB. I will use CCE for movies 7GB to 8GB. I finally will just split it up to 2 DVD-R's if it is above 8GB. I think if you follow this rule you will be very pleased.

[bamafamily]

Well...I am in the Speed versus Quality group. I tried this out on 2 movies I had backed up and the speed and super easy interface was all it took.

I will use this little program to make backups of everything I have so I can loan out to friends and such. Super important movies to me like LOTR and the Star Treks.....I will just go and buy

95% of the time I only watch the movie in its highest audio setting anyway. If the original is a DVD5, then I just read and write in ISO mode in DVDDecrypter.

Upcoming version have been hinted at having a "copy" mode also. This will take care of the DVDDecrypter Write for me.

(on soapbox)
To each their own...Everyone has a reason for doing backups. Some want a movie only on 1 DVDR with exceptional (not perfect) quality. DVD2One is the program for that. Some others tinker with all the other programs because that is what they like to do. They would rather consume 6-8 hours of computing time to make an "almost" perfect copy of the DVD. Good for them. I am a perfectionist at some things where most people would not care. Thats what makes us all different.
(off soapbox)

I hardly EVER buy programs but after last night and my 2 backups, the credit card made its first purchase in the realm of DVD Backups.

TC

Mark

[zwieber]

Is it just me, or has anyone else noticed this ?

There are no chapters in the resulting movie !!! It's one continuous track.

Where did the chapters go ????

I opened the resulting VIDEO_TS.IFO file in ifoedit and hit the play dvd button, and there are no chapters ...

Can anyone confirm this please ?

Zwieber

[mikef07]

I have chapters in mine. Anyone else??

[NYPlayer]

Every movie I have copied has chapters, subtiltles etc....

[jxsam1@yahoo.com]

I just did "Signs" with DVD2ONE, CCE, and of course original. I then took 5 frame sample points randomly. I cannot tell the difference in any. If I took a magnifying glass I could find differences. I also had a friend come in and say which he thought looked the best. Each time he chose I mixed them up and had him choose again. There was no clear cut winner. he chose different ones throught the comparison. Sometimes he felt the DVD2one looked better, other times, CCE, and others the original.

In honor of George Costanza ...

"I present to you the DVD BACKUP lineup!!!"

[zwieber]

must be a problem in IfoEdit player then ... It'll probably work fine once it's burnt to a disk.

Thanks for checking.

Zwieber