Anyone tried DVD2ONE?

[B-boy]

Hi guys, i have been reading this thread all day from the begining, ( yeh took me a few hours- my eyes hurt, ha ha)
Ok so i am a little confused with some directions as people say diferent things.

1.Some say you just rip the Movie / others say rip extra files aswell as movie? ( i use smart ripper, i don't have dvd decrypter, so how can i make sure i get all the right files?)

2. Some mention that you just grab the movie file and open in DVD2ONE, others mention IFOEDIT before you do this?

3. Some mention that you have to swap the original M2V files with the new Encoded files? and put them back in the original folder of where you ripped the movie to?

At the moment the process i use is,

1. Smart Ripper
2. DVD2AVi
3. VFAPI
4. CCE 2.5
5. Spruce - UP
6. Record NOW 4.5

I am still relatively new, but i have mannaged to use this process fine over the past 2 weeks, but i am really interested in buying DVD2ONE to use for a majority of my DVD's (mainly my Special edition's) so i can leave them in good condition & away from the kids! ( i'm not the biggest bitrate junkie, but i would still like nice clear backups of my DVD's, if i ever have to, i can still simply pull out the originals to watch)

So if people can clarify this up for me it would really help me understand before i purchase.

My System:

AMD XP 2100+
WIN XP (service pack 1)
512 DDR
A03 - Pioneer 2 x
Lazer DVD-R, 2 x media


"Thanks everyone" for all there input & advice in advance!
(please dont just say read the guides, because like i said they are different)

[Mordant]

To all those successful with DVD2ONE could you give a click by click walkthrough of your setup for DVDdecrypter and Smartripper? I've tried both, in file and ifo mode...also did image and mounted with D-tools...can't get DVD2ONE to complete. It stops with a "encrypted data detected" msg and won't continue. This comes at different points even on the same rip.

I'm doing something wrong, or DVD2ONE just ain't gonna work for me.

I'm using WinXP Home with a Pioneer 104 DVD-R for ripping and writing.

Any help is appreciated. I've now spent longer ripping and re-ripping disc 1 of my LotR extended than I usually spend on an entire encode.

I've also tried another DVD with the same result.

[ghoster]

well all i do is rup the vob files and the ifo file to my hard drive then i run dvd2one. everything runs smooth for me.

[dun4cheap]

When I rip, I remove all the macrovision, and ifo restrictions. Are you doing this? I also usually just rip the ifo and main PGC nothing else. Since dvd2one I no longer remove streams. I leave them intact for dvd2one to remove them. Then only DVD I have had problems backing up is my Jaws DVD. Always getting a cylinder error on the 5th vob. I have tried my Pioneer front load dvd rom, toshiba laptop dvd rom, and my sony dru500a. So if you guys know the secret for that one let me know.

[mastercut]

This program makes me feel so damn stupid. I can't believe some dude in europe has convinced me to spend 40 dollars on a program thats less than 100 k. And the crazy thing about the whole situation is that the program works. Its so simple and it works... im can't believe it!

100k in assembler is like 50 or 60 mb of full program with dll and shit like that, if BILL put you windowz in assembler the size will be 2 mb and good bye $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

[B-boy]

Another question for you "Dun4Cheap",
If you ripp out the streams before you take it into DVD2ONE, wouldn't that make even more space for a higher bitrate? & then you wouldn't have to change anything ,but let it re encoded (transcode) smaller to fit?
Thanks, just trying to find out as much as possible.

So as you stated you just rip the movie files & the 1 info file?
are you using Smart ripper?
Yes please a click by click guide with smart ripper.
Thanks in advance

[IvIark]

JasonK:

You apparently can't read because I've already said I have NEVER run CCE for 8 hours. It takes me only seconds to run it, and then it runs itself (for a few hours) while I do something else. The results are outstanding. I've also stated in previous threads that I will split some DVDs to 2 DVDRs. It depends on the movie whether I want a perfect copy, but I've come up with a CCE method that takes only seconds of my time with outstanding quality.

No, you have obviously inferred incorrectly. No matter how long you're sat in front of your PC, it still takes several hours for CCE to run through it's process. As for the results being outstanding, well you're just obviously a "selective perfectionist". I did Blackadder with DVD2One the other day and could see the results were diminished quality so decided to run it through CCE. Guess what ... still diminished quality albeit better than the original DVD2One results.

So my question to you is: Why are you prepared to put up with drop in quality with CCE rather than put onto 2 $0.80 disks especially considering that you won't have to lift your arse up from the comfy seats of your home cinema? Is $0.80 OK but no way $1.60? That hardly fits in with the impression of yourself you've been trying to put forward.

You've done nothing but bash DVD2One and yet you COULDN'T have enough experience with it to know what the results are like for the huge variety of films out there. Have you tried it with films around the 5.5GB mark? How many? What results? You see, you simply aren't in a position to make these sweeping statements of quality problems.

If you had read my earlier statements regarding DVD2ONE, you would see that I have a changer. And if you had taken a few seconds to look at my profile, you would see I have a changer. Instead, you make yourself look foolish by saying things which had been, both, addressed in my earlier posts and clearly shown in my profile.

Jason, I'm sorry but I make it a policy never to read the profile of people that are inanely boring.

[jopereira]

]The bright side of DVD technology though is that its digital. It may not look as good as the stuff to come, but it will surely be easier to convert and or preserve than something like VHS

That's a big diference between digital formats and analog ones. We are always lead to believe that digital is always better than analog. Not always so, but that's true with DVD vs. analog formats.

DVD has better initial quality than VHS (or S-VHS) and even more important it won't loose quality over time. A few years from now (the 10 years figure is a good start) we are all converting our DVD library to XPTO tecnhology, but at least we have our initial quality.

That's why I'll stay with CCE methods.
Yesterday I tested DVD2DVD-R in the same movie I tested DVD2One "The English Pacient". The results are like day from night. How can CCE encoded 720x576x25fps with only 3100kbps and stay with a very credible quality?

DVD2One gave me those "slidding" efects that cannot be tolerated in a proper backup disk.

More than say CCE is the best and DVD2One is crap, I'll say that using CCE is actually the best backup method and DVD2One is the fastest and simpler (?) method.

Since I'm a new is this conversions, and have seen so many different and complex methods, I have to say that the use of DVD2DVD-R is not that much complex than DVD2One.
I turned on my computer, stayed about 10mn reading a guide and started the DVD2DVD-R. About 6 hours later I have my movie ready to be burned.

In fact, since DVD2DVD-R do it's own ripping, I spend LESS time with DVD2DVD-R than with DVD2One !!!!

For those who cannot stand leaving the computer on during 6 hours (it will shutdown after conversion) I really recomend the use of DVD2One.
Like others, I start the backup before go to sleep so next morning (during my breakfast) the new DVD is burned.

Since my DVD collection is not that big, and I'm not in a big hurry to backup the collection, this is the best method.

What I think about DVD2One? I think it's a great program.
What I think about DVD2DVD-R? It's even better...
What will I use? DVD2DVD-R for now, keeping a close eye on DVD2One evolution.

[jopereira]

There is no right answer to the question that people have been kicking around here. Its a personal choice.

Yes, there are some replies that are not in the line of a discussion group like this one.

Our mission is to speak about OUR experiences and let everyone take their own way

We will evolve from here.

[B-boy]

Now i have got my version of DVD2ONE, i try and open the file to convert/encode/transcode what ever we are calling it, and it completes it's in about 2 seconds with no actual video file been converted?
does anyone know how to solve this problem?
Thanks in advance

[jopereira]

Now i have got my version of DVD2ONE, i try and open the file to convert/encode/transcode what ever we are calling it, and it completes it's in about 2 seconds with no actual video file been converted?
does anyone know how to solve this problem?
Thanks in advance

Have you ripped DVD to HD first?

[Digital-Man]

Tried DBD2One last night. Phantom menace. Results were OK at best. I also used CCE to reencode TPM at 3,500 avg and even though the file is much smaller the results were much better.

Then I tried Sum of all fears. It's just a few hundred meg to big and after running through DVD2ONE it looked great. It seems that movies that are encoded at a high bit rate do not convert well with DVD2ONE.

It sure was easy though.

[Will Hay]

...every program out there has them even CCE, the point is this people can download the trial version for free test......there is nowt wrong with that is there....I can understand if you have a massive screen and top of the range dvd player u don't want to sacrifice anything 4 that but we all havn't got that setup.

Spaceman, you talk total sense man.
My sentiments exactly - I'm off to trial tonight.
Will

[Will Hay]

BEHAVE

[freedomsbeat]

How's this for a test? I just finished ripping and joing all for disks of the simpsons (season 2). Used claddvd to rip, vob edit to join all the episodes into one disk, and ifoedit to create the ifo file... Here's the fun part though, I'm running dvd2one right now to convert 4 disks worth of cartoons onto one... I'm POSITIVE that this will look crappy but this set cost me $40 bucks and a one disk backup would be sweet... I'll let you all know how this turns out if you care..
Peace

[Will Hay]

[quote="IvIark"]

Using an audio track may be a bit much, maybe keeping an extra stream of subtitles and stripping them out will give you enough space.

Could you help me to identify which audio or subtitle stream to remove please?
Are they easy to identify (so I don't remove the wrong one?)
Thanks,
Will

[-BK-]

Yes we care

BTW VobEdit (v0.6) doesn't seem to work on my system? (Win2k SP2 - AMD XP 2000+ - 512 DDR)

-BK-

[freedomsbeat]

Hey, I'd like to apologize for how terrible my spelling was in my last post (about ripping the Simpsons' dvd)! A bad headache was to blame.. Anyways, DVD2one crapped out on me once so far.. About 10 minutes into the 60 min (estimated) project, DVD2One gave me a message that the job was complete.. Unfortunately, it only finished compiling one corrupt .VOB file. I'm trying it right now and will post any future progress... I really don't expect dvd2one to pass this test now- I'm trying to convert 25gigs to 4.7!

P.S. I found that surfing the web with IE while dvd2one was doing it's magic was a rather difficult task (VERY choppy).. I switched to Opera and everything seems to be nice and stable..

[freedomsbeat]

[quote="Silky31"]

Using an audio track may be a bit much, maybe keeping an extra stream of subtitles and stripping them out will give you enough space.

Could you help me to identify which audio or subtitle stream to remove please?
Are they easy to identify (so I don't remove the wrong one?)
Thanks,
Will

Hey, I usually just pick the first one in the list (tends to be a 6ch/AC3 track).. Commentary tracks tend to be 2 ch.

[Will Hay]

.... Ignore, sorry ....

[freedomsbeat]

Simpsons' test - fail Oh well, I wasn't expecting it to work.. Off to phase two: combining four disks worht of episodes into one.

[GreyDeath]

Okay, I've bought DVD2one and ripped a couple of my NTSC Japanese Region 2's so I can watch it on my Region 1 players, it's great.

However, I've come across a problem with one of them in that DVD Decrypter recognizes the movie, Memories, is split into 3 pgc's (the movie is essentially 3 short stories).

I would like to know how to combine the vob's with chapters, 2 audio tracks, and subtitles--I don't have access to Maestro, Spruce Up, or CCE. I would then like to let DVD2one make the finalized vob since my standalones recognize it's build better than Ifoedit.

Any of you gurus have any ideas? There's been some discussion about joining episodes on this thread, but nothing concrete.

[freedomsbeat]

Simpson's test round one: failed I'm not too disappointed though... Next round: turning the four disk set into a two disk set.. Hope this one works!

[IvIark]

Could you help me to identify which audio or subtitle stream to remove please?
Are they easy to identify (so I don't remove the wrong one?)
Thanks,
Will

When you select the streams to process in Smartripper (or whatever decrypter you're using) you'll see a 4 digit code next to the subtitle streams such as '0x20'.
Just include a subtitle that you don't want to keep and note this code. If you then open up the IFO in IFOEdit, you will see the same code next to a particular subtitle stream. Just strip out that stream.

[mikef07]

Okay, I've bought DVD2one and ripped a couple of my NTSC Japanese Region 2's so I can watch it on my Region 1 players, it's great.

However, I've come across a problem with one of them in that DVD Decrypter recognizes the movie, Memories, is split into 3 pgc's (the movie is essentially 3 short stories).

I would like to know how to combine the vob's with chapters, 2 audio tracks, and subtitles--I don't have access to Maestro, Spruce Up, or CCE. I would then like to let DVD2one make the finalized vob since my standalones recognize it's build better than Ifoedit.

Any of you gurus have any ideas? There's been some discussion about joining episodes on this thread, but nothing concrete.

I did this with BoB (Band of Brothers). What you have to do is demux both the video and audio to separate files. If you do this in your case we will say you have ep1, ep2, ep3. You should end up with "ep1.m2v", "ep2.m2v", and "ep3.m2v. You should also end up with "ep1.ac3", "ep2.ac3", and "ep3.ac3.

THen start maestro up and add all 6 files. Then double click movie and add the first one (ep1.m2v) to the video timeline. Use the scrollbar in video timeline to go to end of ep1.m2v. Add the second (ep2.m2v), go to end again, add third (ep3.m2v).

Click in audio portion and select "create audio sync". Assign the appropriate ac3 files to each and click create audio.

Save and compile. You will end up with 1 long DVD movie that has all three episodes combines. Encode whichever way you want to decrease size and burn.

[Frenetic24]

Mikef07- thats great mike but he also needs subtitles.

Just read up on how to rip subtitles in the doom9 guides with subrip into a format dvdmaestro understands than bam! you are home free!

[mikef07]

Mikef07- thats great mike but he also needs subtitles.

Just read up on how to rip subtitles in the doom9 guides with subrip into a format dvdmaestro understands than bam! you are home free!

then just demux subtitles to extra file and add those into subtitle line the same way u did audio.

[DVC2]

For those that are still having having difficulties heres a short run through of the easiest way to do things.

Insert your dvd in your dvd-rom
start smartripper
select filemode
select the big button named backup
select a folder to save to (its important that the folder actually exist or smartripper will say its done in 2 sec and do nothing)
Smartripper finishes in 15-20 minuttes and you now have the entire dvd decrypted on harddrive (no you cannot use dvd2one directly from the encrypted dvd - you first have to decrypt and rip to harddrive)
start dvd2one - point to the video_ts folder of your ripped backup
select a folder where dvd2one saves the resulting files. (preferable on a secondary harddrive to speed up the writing)
select the videostream (thats the one with the longest playingtime - duh)
select the audiostreams which is identified in dvd2one with language and format
select the subtitle which is identified in dvd2one with language
hit start and in 15-20 minuttes your done

Now how difficult can it be


Oh - and not to piss on any bondfires here - but someone not to happy about the quality of dvd2one mentioned that quality of the backup was extremely important because they needed the best looking backup of their own dvd's on their highquality equipment - and quality was very important because of later transfering the backups (in 10 years or so) to better formats.

Now is it just me or does this not raise 2 obvious questions ?
If you allready own the original dvds and highquality playbackequipment - whats the point then in going that far to make highquality backups ? - I mean, when you want to watch your dvds on your highquality equipment, you wouldent watch the backups if you allready owned the originals and were that eager on quality - youd put in the original dvds and watch those. And why do you need to transfer your backups to better formats later? If you allready own the originals, wouldent it be better to use those as source for your transfer to better formats ? My point being - if you actually do own the original dvds then backups in order to use for other purposes does not need to be THAT highquality. Or in other words you could also say that you are propably just full of it ..... and just like everyone else does NOT own the original dvds but are simply creating a nice litle dvdcollection of socalled "backups" from rentals and otherwise

No harm in that imho - but lets call shit for shit - and stop arguing whats better and whats not. Naturally a careful backup using cce especially when lowbitrate is needed to fit - will allways be better, no need to argue that, I fully agree with you. But otherwise dvd2one works just dandy and have given me nothing but good results yet (10dvds till now), and as long as everyone is happy with the results they are getting using whatever method they want, who really cares how ??

[mikef07]

Guarantee he says they are for his kids or something. But I think u got him personally.

[Will Hay]

Backing up the full series of 'Blackadder Goes Forth" (6 episodes) which totalled around 2:54

Hello,
Would you be kind enough to put a (very) brief guide together for those of us wanting to do the same thing?
Thanks if you can, and well done anyway if you can't
Will