Anyone tried DVD2ONE?

[JasonK]

I don't know about the error you're getting. RecordNow Max 4.5 works fine for me, but I can tell you that the RED for AUDIO_TS and VIDEO_TS is normal. I think it's because the software automatically recognizes them as 'special' DVD Video folder (see the options in the program.)

[GandyMan]

Gandyman,

You want us to believe u paid for CCE and you only have a 850Mhz computer, yea what ever.

No, I don't want you to believe anything. But you sure ASS-U-ME things instead of understanding the facts. As I've said multiple times, I had CCE way before I had the dual processor 850mhz system. I built this system brand a couple years ago when I already had CCE. And another important point you should understand is that I have multiple computers for my business. The newest is a 3Ghz with hyperthreading. The 850mhz is my burning computer which I often encode with also. See? It's amazing what you will learn when you open your eyes and read the facts instead of jumping to misguided conclusions.

I don't know what kind of equipment you are using but here at my house we have a $24,000 A/V system in which the differences are negligible at best. So unless you are using some super duper thing I really can't say I agree with you. We also have TV's ranging in screen size from 20" to 120"

A projector doesn't qualify as a 120 HDTV. I'm also feeding my HDTV from a high end progressive scan DVD player and have had the HDTV professionally calibrated. The difference between my CCE encodes and DVD2ONE is like looking out of a window and looking at a picture. I've shown the difference to some friends also. DVD2ONE has a lot of improvement to go through for us videophiles, but I agree that newbies and those who aren't as critical will find it acceptable.

I will do additional testing with some more movies, as I would love for it to be as good of quality as some are trying to say, but I also realize there is no such thing as a free lunch. And my experience with the product so far hasn't been very impressive quality wise. Some users will say it's 97% as good as the original, but go on to say they see blockiness in dark areas. Sorry, but that would mean NO WHERE NEAR 97% as good as the original.

Like I said What ever. If some one is to be honest and watch a 134min. movie and 5 or 6 minutes of the movie have a noticable dif then guess what that is about 97% as good as the original. The point people are tring to make on this topic I think is that thier is a reliable peice of software out thier that will do what most people want it to do with great results. Read what they are saying. Yes they know it is not perfect but for the most part it is only noticable if u are really looking for it and then pause when u find the slightest diff. It has already been said if the movie is a really long one than try another route not dvd2one unless u really do not care about quality. Although most people so far have said that they have had good results using long movies and it is up to them to see if it is. One last thing HDTV is a standard I am sure u know this since u have one, so as long as what ever is playing (or projecting) it is capable of playing HDTV then it is HDTV.

[aaron10]

Yup, you are right on the Folder specification. However, I still can burn the individual files but when I opt to burn them along with the folder that houses them, things go awry. I'm bewildered.

[JasonK]

Read what they are saying. Yes they know it is not perfect but for the most part it is only noticable if u are really looking for it and then pause when u find the slightest diff

Read what "they" are saying? That must be a joke. I've already said I never pause and "look" for the quality issues. But when the quality is near its best, it's like looking out a window. There's no need to pause or sit closer to the TV.

A projector is still a projector, not a 120" HDTV. Calling it such will only mislead people.

[hothandiman]

Results on Harry Potter were great! This is about 2 hours 30 minutes. I have an RCA F38310 HDTV with a 38" widescreen. Playing the DVD with a JVC progressive scan player. Can I tell the difference from my original? Sure, I can be picky when I want to. But in my opinion, you have to be looking HARD and close to the screen to pick up the problems. Like others have said, the most noticeable problems occur in darker sceens with little motion. I saw a small amount of pixalization and some "noise". I have not used other products like CEE and tmepg. I really do not want to spend the time encoding. The "transcoding" process is fast. About the same amount of time time as stripping streams, etc. in ifoedit. I have always used ifoedit and DVDXCopy for time and quality concerns. Now if I have a movie that will not go to 4.37 gig with stripping streams in ifoedit, I will DEFINATELY use this product. Forget DVDXCopy! (sorry Darrow! You are still my hero!). This product is great, especially for folks like noobies and others who do not have tons of time on thier hands.

[mikef07]

Read what they are saying. Yes they know it is not perfect but for the most part it is only noticable if u are really looking for it and then pause when u find the slightest diff

Read what "they" are saying? That must be a joke. I've already said I never pause and "look" for the quality issues. But when the quality is near its best, it's like looking out a window. There's no need to pause or sit closer to the TV.

A projector is still a projector, not a 120" HDTV. Calling it such will only mislead people.

Does a 65" Mitsubishi HDTV qualify?
Or a Sony 61" HDTV?
Or a 55" RCA?
Or a 36" Sony XBR?

It ahs been tested on all of these and works like a charm. Maybe its a user error on your part. I don't know. You would probably get to my house look at it and say "See what CCE can do?" And I would say back "Sorry, that's a DVD2One copy."

Oh and BTW 120" is 120". There is no better test than a projector. They tend to show pixels more than any TV can. SORRY!!!

[herbapou]

Well, DVD2one is unusable to me ATM because of the pulsating/shimmering sharp/blurr/sharp/blurr effect.

Its so annoying I think I rather watch a 10 year old VHS tape recorded in EP mode.

[GandyMan]

Read what they are saying. Yes they know it is not perfect but for the most part it is only noticable if u are really looking for it and then pause when u find the slightest diff

Read what "they" are saying? That must be a joke. I've already said I never pause and "look" for the quality issues. But when the quality is near its best, it's like looking out a window. There's no need to pause or sit closer to the TV.

A projector is still a projector, not a 120" HDTV. Calling it such will only mislead people.

Once again HDTV is a standard Not a tv it is a standard just like pal and ntsc are standards HDTV is a standard, thier are diff standards under HDTV, So u should not mislead people.



HDTV is a type of television signal, which is scheduled by government mandate to replace the current US standard, NTSC, by the year 2006. HDTV is different from NTSC in several ways. First, HDTV is broadcast in the 16:9 aspect ratio as compared NTSC's 4:3 aspect ratio. Second, HDTV resolutions are increased from (if expressed in computer resolution terms) 640 x 480 to either 1922 x 1080 (or 1080i) or 1280 x 720 (or 720p). Thirdly, because the signal itself is digital rather than analog, it can carry a lot of information, including full digital audio with multiple channels.

[dun4cheap]

I just noticed that DVD2ONE can no longer be purchased online. I am backing up my original and code. Just in case the hard drive fails.

Burning:

As for burning issues, I have not had any. I am burning with my Sony DRU500a with ritek 2x disc. The preferred software is Nero, but until its fixxed I have been using RecordNow DX 4.6 which really has worked without problems.

IFOEDIT or DVD2ONE

As for still using IFOEDIT, probably not. I ran into problems with creating fully compatible files. DVD2ONE won't re-encode the video if it will fit when you rip only certain streams and it creates IMHO a more compatible IFO file. Plus it copies all the subtitle colors and verbage for the AUDIO tracks. Its pretty much an ALL IN ONE solution for now. I am sure it or something else will come out that is better and this process will change in the future. But until then I only want one disc not 2.

[Scarpad]

Oh come on you're a fool a 10 yr old VHS sure DVD2One is like that. If your copying a 2 1/2 hr or 3 hr movie to one disk you get what you get. But 90-130 min films look fine

[drewson99]

has anyone used dvd2one and used a DTS track? my dad did this and said that it took an hour to process. i assumed that it was because of the DTS, as I have never done the DTS track w/ dvd2one and have never had it take so long.

ZZ

[GandyMan]

has anyone used dvd2one and used a DTS track? my dad did this and said that it took an hour to process. i assumed that it was because of the DTS, as I have never done the DTS track w/ dvd2one and have never had it take so long.

ZZ

Yes I did for the test of the full vesion, and it took only 7 min. I would ask what speed is your dads system, what kinda mem does he have (sdram ddr rd), and is he using only one HD. If he is useing only one HD it will kill the time it takes to reencode. Should always go from one HD to the other. I am sure u know this but dad may not. It was with a 2 hr film so he may have a problem. And again I say this was a test with the full version not a test with the trial. Only put that their so people do not get mislead

[drewson99]

he has a monster computer, I just built it a few months ago on a blank check "give me the best custom built computer you can"

one thing though, he has a single, 180 GB HD. it is a separate partition, but the same physical drive. that must be it.

thanks,

ZZ

[GandyMan]

he has a monster computer, I just built it a few months ago on a blank check "give me the best custom built computer you can"

one thing though, he has a single, 180 GB HD. it is a separate partition, but the same physical drive. that must be it.

thanks,

ZZ

Yep that is it, Its good when we solve things here. I would say get him a cheap 20 gig just to use for the completed files, he will really be happy. 8)

[Scarpad]

What's the story behind the speed issue and having two drives? When I built my latest machine I put a 20 gig in for my C drive and a 120 Gig for my D so I have no issues.

[GandyMan]

What's the story behind the speed issue and having two drives? When I built my latest machine I put a 20 gig in for my C drive and a 120 Gig for my D so I have no issues.

Was just saying that if u have only one HD your encoding time will increase because this program encodes faster than it can read and right to the same HD, was worried that some people might get the idea that two partitions on the same drive is like having two drives. I am testing with a variaty of HD combinations to see what the best combo is, right now i have been having the best test times with a 40 gig WD and then two WD SE 80 gig on seperate master channels. Tried four 120's on a raid and it was the best time but most people are not going to go that far to save a minute or two. So it was just advice I was putting out, I guess it is also on the CPU speed, I use a vapochill running at 4060 gig so my slowest component is the HD's. So anyway sorry for going on more than what u asked. Have a great DVD day.

[Hex]

I would like to know also. I've been getting the same errors with RNM.

[danny333]

i tried the demo version. My dvd i want to do is 30 chapters. The program only had a list of 6 chapters and 1 chapter for a total list of 6. What i mean to say is i didnt see an option for the 30 chapters to condense. It did however do something, but it was only a few seconds of a menu extra. What i did to use it was to click on the video_ts portion of the source. The output was Video_ts as well. Any suggestions?

[mrdisky]

i tried the demo version. My dvd i want to do is 30 chapters. The program only had a list of 6 chapters

Not absolutely positive but as simple as this program is to use I'm thinking that the lack of chapters is a restriction of the Demo? Don't have the demo here so I can't confirm. If I'm mistakeen I'm sure someone will step forward and correct me....

[dun4cheap]

Yes it transfers all the chapters.


Wanted to post some information I have read in another forum. Its my understanding in a couple of days their will be a new release available fixxing some bugs. Its also mentioned in the future that you will be able to key in a target size. With this the most interesting info I found was regarding the transcoding portion. Its my understanding that one of the matrixs is inversed which maybe causing a degregation issue. Meaning in the future this may be fixxed and we will have even better video quality. While I can't take credit for the above information, I wanted to pass it along. I found it on the doom9.org forums. There also seems to be a member of the dvd2one team member answering questions.

[jopereira]

what does "encoding to 15mn" mean?

15 minutes. Since "m" could be "meter" I write "mn" to say "minute" (that's a normal engineer practice). Of course we don't speak about meters here so I'll stay with just an "m".
I don't get 30 m . My VOB is around 400-600 Mb, and the movie freezes at exactly 15m.

I havent seen this yet and I have done several movies over 2 hours long, why hasn't it happened to me yet?

I think many have the wrong ideia about long movies. The question is not "how long the movie is" but "How many Gb it takes"

Yesterday I took Spiderman, Ice Age and Showtime from Blockbuster.
All the three take less than 3,8Gb when I strip out unwanted languages and subtitles. They are not long movies (95m tops).
But take a 2 hour movie with 7 Gb, for instance. After strip out unwanted material it probably will stay with 5-5.5 Gb. This kind of size can be easily "compressed" by DVD2One (I think!!).
I was a bad boy when I tested movies with 6-7Gb to compress to 4.36Gb. That's too much for DVD2One. I'll stay with DVD2DVD-R (and CCE) for these ones.
But many PAL movies have other languages like french, german, etc., and DTS AND DD which I can strip out. Only films like Shrek, Ice Age, etc. have the portuguese language (for the kids to understand...). "Adult" movies (read "normal" not X-type) in portugal are with original language and portuguese subtitles.

Just a note: the original English Pacient has that kind of background moving around, but in a very small scale when compared with the output from DVD2One. The original really makes me concentrate on background to see it; DVD2One output don't!! I really see the actors skin moving around their head bones!!

what kind of movie is only 5-6 Mb? (I assume you mean MB) Is it some kind of episodic disc?

Sorry, 5-6 Gb.

[IvIark]

i tried the demo version. My dvd i want to do is 30 chapters. The program only had a list of 6 chapters and 1 chapter for a total list of 6. What i mean to say is i didnt see an option for the 30 chapters to condense. It did however do something, but it was only a few seconds of a menu extra. What i did to use it was to click on the video_ts portion of the source. The output was Video_ts as well. Any suggestions?

The demo version only processes the first 30 minutes of the movie which I suspect equates to 6 out of the total 30 chapters.

Mark

[aaron10]

Hex,

I think you were referring to the fact that you had the same problem as me w/ RNM...

You might the workaround described below. Unfortunately, it did not solve my problem. I still get the same error when I try to include the VIDEO_TS and AUDIO_TS folders in a burn.


The application can hang when verifying the compliance for the _TS folders. You can disable the compliance check by going to Tools > Options > Data Disc and unchecking "Recognize the Video_TS and Audio_TS folders per the DVD specification.

Let me know if this works for you...

[gobama]

With RecordNow Max or PrimoDVD, the process to create a DVD video disc is the same. Open the program, click file, new job, data disc and then click on add folder and add your AUDIO_TS and VIDEO_TS folders then type in the name of your movie in the Volume Label and pop your blank dvd-r or dvd-rw media into your dvd writer and click the Red "Go" button and you're off to the races. I like PrimoDVD for PS2 backups, and I normally just use NERO 5.5.917 to burn my movies. I know that dvd2one's site says to not use NERO, but I do and I haven't had any problems. Why fix what ain't broken?

[aaron10]

The question is: Are these just normal folders (i.e., AUDIO_TS and VIDEO_TS)? For example, can you right click the desktop, choose new folder, and create one naming it VIDEO_TS and then drop all the VOB's, IFO's, etc. into it and expect a successful burn, or do the folders have to be created in another manner? If they have to have specila attributes how do you create them in conjunction with SmartRipper, DVD2ONE and RNM?

Many thanks...

[IvIark]

The question is: Are these just normal folders (i.e., AUDIO_TS and VIDEO_TS)? For example, can you right click the desktop, choose new folder, and create one naming it VIDEO_TS and then drop all the VOB's, IFO's, etc. into it and expect a successful burn, or do the folders have to be created in another manner? If they have to have specila attributes how do you create them in conjunction with SmartRipper, DVD2ONE and RNM?

Yes, no problem you can simply create the folders yourself. When I've done this previously though using Nero, it took about 10 minutes for all the files to copy over to the DVD window for some unknown reason whereas it is instantaneous when copying over the completed folders.
Don't know why that happened, nor do I know if it will be the same with RNM.

[aaron10]

Okay, was just thinking the reason I was having problems with the RNM burn might be due to improper folder attribute issues. You can check my posts out on page 9 and this page to read my RNM burn problems.

Many thanks...

[GandyMan]

[shelbyboy]

Let me add that so far this program is the cats arse! A tip on media. I have a Pioneer 105. Memorex pixilated, Khyperterm pixilated. Bout house brand DVD-r from PC-club. They are on the web and have local stores in many locations. 50 DVD-R for 39.99. Check them and they are RitekG03. Works like a champ every time and burns out to 4.36 GN no prob. I am a little worried about writing on the lable side with a permanant black marker. These do look a little thin on the silver side. Have not had any problems though. You guys can fight all you want about quality but I am very glad to find something that is quick and provides an easy interface. Works for me and I am using Nero too!

[Nolonemo]

I did Lord of the Rings (around 3 hours) last night, and it looks fine to me. OTOH, I don't have a HD set, just Sony 36", and I'm not insanely picky either.