Help with Leadtek Winfast 2000 XP Deluxe, Drivers and Sound

[dalodown]

hi

i just purchased a Leadtek Winfast 2000 XP Deluxe capture card. i tried installing the drivers from btwincap.soundforge.net and everytime they are installing i get the blue screen of death. so i decided to use the drivers from Leadtek, and capturing video is fine, however the audio, sounds kinda tinny, like it is vibrating or echoing. This is only when a captured video is played back, the audio sounds fine while the video is being captured.

my setup
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windows 2000
msi kt7 limited edition kt133a mobo
duron 1ghz
40gb IBM hard drive
soundblaster vibra 128 soundcard
msi geforce 2 mx400 video card

i have the vcd connected to the capture card via audio in, then audio out on the capture card to audio in on the sound card, is this right?

i have tried setting the audio to stereo, line in etc in the leadtek program, but i either get no sound, low sound or the "tinny" sound.

any help would be much appreciated on either the sound or different drivers so i am able to use other programs.

oh by the way, i can open virtualdub and avi_io however the video is stuffed, the video has diagonal line and the colour is all messed up

thanks

matthew

[dilligaf]

I'm having the same problems with the Winfast/vibra/XP. Video is fine, had to check that I had'nt put the audio cable in the mic input, the sound replay was that bad, this was using the bundled PVR Will try different ES1371 drivers (if avail) and Iuvcr or Windvr. avi_io worked better for me before the PVR program was installed???? but still not at full resolution. Will post back here if I have any luck.

dilligaf

[dilligaf]

Found a page at Creative that may help with the distortion

http://asia.creative.com/support/driverssu/welcome.asp?region=1&LangID=1033&OS=%23Win2...iles&x=34&y=10

[dalodown]

this is real strange because when i capture in another program (virtualVCR) the audio is fine, it must be something to do with the leadtek software, as i am still using the same drivers.

thanks for your help

matthew

[dilligaf]

May have found a work around for this problem, I tried using Win dvr & had much the same distortion on the capture as the winfast pvr. Checked the record level in the Sound & Audio Devices selection in Control Panel, found all ok, but then left the 'line in' record slider visible while I played around with test recording with Winfast pvr. Found if the Windows record slider is slid down to 0 then up to just past the 2nd lowest increment (after starting the recording) it cleared the distortion. Hope this helps

[dalodown]

hi

thanks for your help. i have swapped over to virtualdub and are getting excellent captures, no audio problems or anything

matthew

[divinemaster]

hi all if i use the winfast pvr i get the same problum but i have used a programe called neodvd and all is great sound , picture and i can auther with it aswell

system spec

amd athlon 1333 ghz
ibm 80 gb + wd 40gb
geforce 4 64 mb ddr
512mb ddr 2100 ram
lite on 32x12x40
ricoh mp5125a dvd + r/rw
leadtek winfast 2000 xp delux
onbard souns blaster 128
soltek sl75drv-4

[dilligaf]

Hmm the line in record level slider trick is working for me at the moment. Ive tried capturing with the bundled Videostudio 6 SE, it has the same distortion. Have installed the latest sound card drivers (ES1371) to no avail. Will try a Soundblaster Live card tomorrow to see if things improve.

Despite having a heap of capture programs to use with this card, can't find one that I'm happy with (yet). Might try that Neodvd

[dilligaf]

Checking my wiring I thought the audio distortion in pvr & video studio 6 was caused by running the audio cable direct into the sound card line & not via the Winfast card. A check of the line diagram in the instructions was all that was needed. First run through went great, alas still had to 'unselect'/'select' the line in capture check box, to stop the distortion

[dilligaf]

After a few days of reinstalling, adjusting, substituting bits to clear this tuner/capture card of captured sound distortion. Found that the Creative 1371 (also called Vibra/Ensoniq/PCI128) soundcard was to blame, swapped it out for a SB Live Value card (no 5.1) and all is sweet. Set the PVR audio capture volume to 70 (previously 10). Running XP on a K7S5A SIS chipset mobo.

[bbb]

I also received a Winfast TV2000XP card--just arrived.

The btwincap.soundforge.net drivers installed fine for me under XP. I didn't bother installing the Leadtek drivers (even though I downloaded the new ones just in case) because I hear it takes up more system processes than the btwincap.soundforge.net ones.

My sound sounds fine except for desyncs--probably because I'm using the line-in on my sound card instead of the Winfast TV2000XP. I'll try the Winfast line in and report my results.

My Installation Process:
Shutdown. Insert Winfast TV2000XP Deluxe card into PCI slot. Boot up. I got the "New hardware detected" message and I canceled the message. Double clicked the btwincap.soundforge installer. Manually selected "Leadtek Winfast TV2000XP" card during the installation process. Checked the radio option. Finished installation. Reboot (just in case). On boot up, card was detected in Device Manager as "Conextant's BtPCI WDM Audio/Video Capture."

Apps Experience:
Dscaler worked but I didn't like the deinterlacing (tried all the different types) as everything looked either jumpy or line doubled. I wasn't impressed with Dscaler (latest stable version).

Virtual VCR ( http://www.digtv.ws/ - different from) worked great. Other than the multiple option tabs (they should have consolidated some of the options), I find Virtual VCR to be a very streamlined and stable capture app (also drops very few frames compared to other apps including AVI_IO). However, I'm finding some sound desyncs in long captures.

Studio 7 had limited vertical capture resolution (x240) and no ability to select PicVideo MJPEG or Huffy codecs.

AVI_IO worked under the VFW to WDM wrapper but it crashed and rebooted 90 minutes into a 120 minute capture. Also, AVI_IO is unable to capture to 1 AVI file; it can only capture to segmented AVI files under NTFS.

[bbb]

I found out that the btwincap.soundforge.net drivers didn't install a sound capture driver, according to the FAQ. As such, it requires audio capture from the soundcard. The official Leadtek codecs should install the audio capture codecs and should be able to capture from the Winfast TV2000XP card but I will have to wait a while to try this.

Truly enjoying the simple and beautiful interface of Virtual VCR and it's stability, I was determined to solve the sound desync problem and I found a way.

Sync procedure:
1. In Virtual VCR, click on "Settings" button, click on the "AV Sync" tab, check "Resample Audio and Resample audio dynamically."

Now, the captured AVI will play back in sync. However, don't be fooled that everything is now synced. When you encode to MPEG1/2, the sound will be desynced again. The reason for desyncs is due to framedrop handling in Virtual VCR (VV). VV doesn't insert frame drops as full frames, unlike AVI_IO, it only flags them. When Tmpgenc reads this AVI file, it doesn't interpret the dropped frame flag as a signal to repeat the encoding of the frame during MPEG encoding and as such Tmpgenc skips this drop frame during the encoding process, resulting in desynced AV which is noticeable with sufficient dropped frames.

2. Open the AVI in VirtualDub, go to "Video" tab, click "Frame Rate", and click "Change so video and audio durations match". Frameserve to Tmpgenc or CCE.

Now your finished MPEG 1/2 will be perfectly synced.

*Hopefully the Virtual VCR author will soon find a fix for this AVI flag issue and then we don't have to use the VirtualDub fix method.

[dalodown]

thanks for your help triple b i will try that out now

[dilligaf]

Cheers for that info bbb, I had installed the BTwincap drivers, got to start capturing in Morgan mjpeg when I promptly ran out of room . Had a bit of a play with the bundled software PVR & Ulead Video Studio 6 SE, found PVR ok to use at all resolutions straight to mpeg1/2, but I miss the vital info like frames dropped & time/space left on drive. mpgs captured this way ran smooth with no sync problem after 95 mins. The Ulead program had frame dropped info but would not go to 720 x 576? The capture to mpeg4 is of interest 30Mb per 6mins at vcd resolution.

[bbb]

I almost forgot about trying the bundled capture software (still in the box).

I will try that to see if it stays in sync automatically (so I don't have to use VirtualDub to fix it).

Virtual VCR has a nice progress bar and numerical display telling you how much HD room you have left and how many frames were dropped.

I also found out that Studio 7 won't capture with this card--it errors out no matter what settings I used.

I will stick with Virtual VCR and try the bundled software tomorrow.

[mnkyboy]

I know this thread is old, but hopefully someone can help me out.

I have a Leadtek 2000XP Deluxe card. I use Winfast PVR to capture DVD mpeg compliant files. The files play fine after capturing, but when I cut commercials out with Womble, i have "audio drift" sync problems. If I keep the commercials, and go straight to authoring with TMPGEnc DVD Author (ive tried Video Studio 7 also), the audio drift problem is there also in the end result. Like I said, the video file plays fine before I author it.

I cant capture to AVI, since I only have about 40GB to work with, so does anyone know a way to capture to mpeg2 dvd compliant files without havining audio drift problems? Is there a way to fix the audio drift problem in the existing file(s)?

[tw1965a]

>> Found that the Creative 1371 (also called Vibra/Ensoniq/PCI128) soundcard was to blame,...

Specifications: Sound Blaster® PCI128 Sound Card :
Line-in impedance: 20k Ohms
ine-In Voltage Range: 0 to 1 Vrms


Specifications: Creative Labs SB Live! Value :
Line-In Impedance: 10k Ohms
Line-In Voltage Range: 0 to 1 Vrms

[Justin Case]

I know this thread is old, but hopefully someone can help me out.

I have a Leadtek 2000XP Deluxe card. I use Winfast PVR to capture DVD mpeg compliant files. The files play fine after capturing, but when I cut commercials out with Womble, i have "audio drift" sync problems. If I keep the commercials, and go straight to authoring with TMPGEnc DVD Author (ive tried Video Studio 7 also), the audio drift problem is there also in the end result. Like I said, the video file plays fine before I author it.

I cant capture to AVI, since I only have about 40GB to work with, so does anyone know a way to capture to mpeg2 dvd compliant files without havining audio drift problems? Is there a way to fix the audio drift problem in the existing file(s)?

Read this article, it's concept is good. I had to resample my audio from 48000 to 47990. I'm using the same card and experienced the same discrepancy. My audio started leading the video after about 8 minutes and progressively got worse while viewing a re-encoded MPEG.

[Justin Case]

Disregard my previous post... I updated with the latest drivers and Winfast PVR software and all is well. I use TMPGEnc Plus to edit and encode my captured file which is capped at 720 x 480 MPEG-2.

[winifreid]

Problems with Ensoniq drivers might be due to the fact that there is more than one version of the card and the downloaded drivers from Creative only work with one of them. I had to remove all traces of the updated drivers and reinstall from the CD. The problem with Ulead VS 7 can be fixed by selecting "Force preview mode" under Capture options. You should be able to use any codec with VS 7. I can use Pic, Huffy and the mpeg 1 and 2 that come with Ulead. I also can select any resolution to capture.

I don't think you can capture sound with any TV card alone, but I am pretty sure you have to connect the Leadtek to your sound card to capture any sound.