Others more qualified can sort out why it happens, but I'm convinced labels CAN affect playback. I recently started labeling my DVDRs, and a few that played fine previously now stutter and eventually stop. These fall into two types:
1) CMC +Rs (yeah, some actually worked BEFORE labeling).
2) Any DVD burned before I installed the latest firmware for my writer.
What the hell, I'll take a stab at it. Say your DVDR works fine but is not as perfect as you think, adding a label is the straw that breaks the camels back. Or rather, before labeling, your only slightly finicky player manages to play the dodgy disk. Afterwards it just barfs.
Think I'll start using core/hub labels.
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I have a stash of CD labeling kits. One is from Neato and the other is the famed CD Stomper Pro. I noticed they both have the stomper/push-down thingy for applying CD labels that is perfectly aligned. On the back of the Neato box, it even says:
"No damaged discs, readback errors or peeling."
The program I use to make my labels currently is from Globalstar Software and they DO NOT have a push-down thing. They only supply a circular block that you can insert into the hole in the middle of the jewel case and then you put your CD label through that block and onto the CD. It doesn't look too misaligned, the entire label is still on the CD-R and does not protrude off the edge. Does that really matter?
Never had a problem, using:
NEC ND1300 A, each firmware update up to 1.08
Meritline Matte CD/ DVD labels
Ritek G03, G04, Prime 1x and Prime 4x - all from Meritline too.
Lexmark X1150 and Lexmark Z45
I used to make full color labels on all of my backed up movies (about 200+.....kids do not mix well with original discs) , but it seemed like a waste of ink, so I just do white labels with the movie title in black.
Oh, by the way, for those of you who have lexmarks, walmart has a knock-off brand of replacment cartridges for $18 each black and color. Called NuKote. Although Walmart's website only shows the black ink, they carry color too, at least the store by my house does .....
im newer than a newbie, i just wanna make an input, maybe im wrong, my theory is that dvd-r's are really prone to read errors when using sticky labels than cdr's coz, dvd-r have smaller laser tracks than cdr which makes it harder for the laser to focus in case of unbalance disk caused by this label...i have no problem with the labels with my sony player though, even sometimes i accidentally stick it off center, its different story though if i use my cheap player, so probably its a player issue too.
There may something to this. I also have labeled movies that freeze-up, sound drops out, etc. I have been using the same brand media.
They only do this on a stand-alone, on the computer they play fine. Perhaps it is the architecture of the player(s).
I have determined that the 'errors' occur at chapter break points, so I had assumed that the problem was authoring, but the fact it plays perfect on the computer has killed that theory. Maybe it's the label. That's the only thing I haven't considered.
If you are only having problems only at the end of a movie, check the edge of the blank discs, I see lots of flaws on mine about 1/4 " in from the edge, this may be causing the problem. I try to avoid recording to the edge.
I can't wait to try some tests. Thanks for mentioning this.
Very helpful thread... thank you all!!! Now my question and forgive me if this has already been answered...
What if I buy the media with the printable white surface and stick one of those Brother P-Touch labels on my media... it'd be a small label with only the Title of the movie, NOT a full disk label.
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Originally Posted by Quake2Player
Or use no label at all on the disk and just label the DVD case - that's the safest you can get
I'd stay away from sticky labels 'cause not all DVD players can read through them
And Inkjet prints can peel or rub off due to heat...which can screw up your player bigtime.
Though it depends on how much ink you're using or how fancy your labels are.
Really, the important thing is what's on the disk, and if it's important enough to you, don't go overboard with labels - you really don't need any on the disk itself.
Even major studios don't use them all the time.
When I first started backing up my dvds, I also had a problem with the labels. I have tried all types of blank dvd brands (Memorex, TDK, GQ and K Hypermedia). Every single dvd would freeze after I applied the dvd labels, some at the beginning, but most stop playing in the middle of the movie . Then I tried Ritek G04 DVD-R and the all worked great with the labels. So I would suggest trying to use the Ritek brand. If I have to make an educated guess, I would say it has something to do with the weight of the dvd after the label is applied.
I have only been burning DVD's since Christmas , and I have labeled just about every single one of them with full coverage stickers. The only problems I have ever had with the discs is when I burned them incorrectly. Since I learned what to do, I haven't had a problem. I use Memorex, TDK and Imation. My question is this... do they negatively effect the long term use of the disc, or if I keep the face of the disc clean, will it be ok? Thanks
Originally Posted by bszarek001
However I used cheap crap labels for my cd a few years ago and the labels of those discs has got air bubbles today.
I have labeld dvds for over a year and use more expensive labels for those and they seems to be find today, so don't buy those cheap crap labels, because then you might run into troubel in the future.......
haha.. Yeah, that does work pretty well, but I can't complain too much. I was using the Memorex labels for a while, but then I found some glossy full-face labels on ebay (200 labels for $20). They work perfectly and look nice too. Until I have a problem, I think i'll continue to use them.
Very interesting thread.
This past weekend I purchased the Fellows Neato CD/DVD Label Kit. I'm using TDK 2x (G02) DVD-R media. I applied three full color labels and had zero problems with the discs once labeled. They look much better than a Sharpie, that's for sure!
IMHO, if the label is centered properly I wouldn't think it would cause much trouble. With the kit above, it's next to impossible to not center the label correctly.
Anyway, as with most things PC based, your experience may vary.
I was thinking about how some commercial dvds are labeled with a fairly heavy paint coat which is often asymetrical. It would seem that these would be more unbalanced than a slightly off-center paper label. Any thoughts?
Also, an earlier post suggested applying the label before burning. Has anyone tried this?
I have always been hesitant to do that, but I'm not exactly sure why. I don't think it really matters either way. Although, the sticker may alter somewhat the way the laser burns the data into the media by changing the way it reflects the light. I'm not sure, and I may be speaking out of my you know what, but I have never had a problem with the labels. Is it possible that the people that have problems with labeled dvd media are using very cheap dvd players?
Originally Posted by TerryG
I found that this works best for me
1. burn disk
2. apply label to disk
3. print labeled disk
I've been labeling my DVD-R's with Regular Photo quality matte Neato 2up labels on various media and not had any problems, when I changed my labels to a cheap full face brand all discs had playback problems and then worked fine once removed..
Thought I'd mention this as I've heard quite a few people saying they've had no problems with these particular neato labels..
I don't label all my disks but I have several of them and only 1 messed up because I didn't get the label centered.... my fault. All the others has never gave any play or read problems. <<<knock on wood>>>
Also, an earlier post suggested applying the label before burning. Has anyone tried this?
What if I buy the media with the printable white surface and stick one of those Brother P-Touch labels on my media... it'd be a small label with only the Title of the movie, NOT a full disk label
You take your chances with DVD labels but the thermal tape solution is a less expensive and effective solution.
Well up until today, I thought labeling had no effects on the dvd-r disc. I have many dvd+r and dvd-r with labels and all of them plays fine on my standalone dvd player (80+ discs with labels on Pioneer 260, this baby plays everything!). I've used TDK, Memorex, Verbatim etc.
Just couple days ago, I put labels on 8 dvd-r disc (Prino discs, I know they sux) and now every one of them either skip, pixelate or don't play at all. But of those 8 discs played perfectly before I put the label.
Only speaking from my personal experience, labeling your disc can screw up the disc, at least on cheap crappy media (Princo).
So until I can get Epson R300 or R200 printer, Sharpie will do for now