Sticky labels can screwup the playback of your DVDR's

[leebo]

I take it a "sharpie" is a biro??

biro???

Don't know what that is, but a "Sharpie" is a brand name for a perminent marker. Write on your skin with one and it'll be with you for a week.

[RabidDog]

permanent marker? no thats what we call a stanley knife!
Biro ? Laslo biro inventor of the ball point pen,
what about software for printing these hub labels as they are very specialized. I'm very impressed by your example! its a BAD website tho...



just a thought if stelios hajuou opens a brothel in nevada what will it be called??

[JMO]

Sharpies are Sanford Sharpie Extra Fine Point Permanent Markers (the sort of thing you draw on OHP film with). Available from all good stationers).

You might as well use a rusty nail to engrave on your disc as use a bog standard biro, BTW.

[LanEvo7]

Still nobody knows the long term effect so stick labels on the DVD. Even if you do get it centered and your dvd player can play it, there is always the question of what happens when the adhesives degrades over time. Just something to think about.

[ceptico]

I have had Label problems since the beginning.When I realized that the disks started to fail near the end I thought it was all about cheap media.After a few experiments I took off one of the bad disks label and tried it with a Disk verify sw.And there it was, the disks that failed where playing flawlessly.

I´ve used this product with excellent results
http://www.mantech.co.za/KONTAKT/K50.htm
Just apply,wait about 2 minutes then remove without effort and without glue sticking everything.[/url]

[Tommyknocker]

My disk problems disappeared after I changed to hub labels.

[RabidDog]

:P your hub label looks good but how do you get that raised edge effect? the silver ring at the outside of the hub label. Plus how much info can you put on a hub label.

[Tommyknocker]

your hub label looks good but how do you get that raised edge effect? the silver ring at the outside of the hub label. Plus how much info can you put on a hub label.

That is just an optical illusion, caused by the scanner, where I got the image from. The disk is a regular Princo DVD-R 2x. But thanks anyway.

[cognacdog2]

I wish I read this forum before I purchased a new pioneer dvd player for the tv.

I was wondering why my dvdr's were freezing 20 to 40 minutes into the disk and tried numerous brands, numerous software , then decided my 2 yr old jvc machine must be going faulty. So I purchased a new machine and the disks still froze!

Then i thought, about it some more and realised it had seemed to start about the time I started labelling my disks, so i did a search on the net and here we are - I have found the problem.

So I removed the labels and they all WORKED faultlessly!!

I found the best way to remove them is with wd40 or similar , soak the label and the whole lot peels off very easily in 1 minute, wash it in luke warm water and a few drops of dishwashing liquid.

Leave to dry and then mark with a pen.

No more labels for me on dvd's.

[The village idiot]

New silver metalic Sharpie?

Be interesting to see how many people who once used labels or markers, now use an inkjet printer.

[thayne]

I never had any problems with standard labels, but I have switched to the hub labels now cause I think they look cool

[Espen]

I have label my dvd for nearly one year now. I have tested alot of different media and lots of different labels. I have made alot of diffent tests and found out that many thing will affect whether or not you running in to troubel or not with labels.

First i used pretty cheap labels and run into problem direct, pixeling freezing and so on. Then I start to use quit expensive labels, but still i got problems. Some of the dvds run into problems in some dvds, well they allways played perfect in my Philips and Sony, however not in some piooner's for exampel. So I tried out some more expensive media. And now say 6 out of 7 worked fine in all dvds, but still 1/7 start pixeling.

I'm still here today. I can not be sure that the labeld dvd worked 100% in all dvds. But hey 6/7 works in all dvds and they allways works in my two dvd so I don't take this as a very big problem, but it would be fine to find a solution of a media and label that allways worked fine in all player. I'm still testing differnet medias and hope to find the perfect media some day!

[leebo]

I'm still testing differnet medias and hope to find the perfect media some day!

Well good luck on that one!

[RabidDog]

give us some of your findings, you say cheap labels cause problems, is this because they are thick? expensive labels .. are these thin? what makes are the "good" labels? pressit? we need to know!

[Espen]

Well as i wrote, there are lots of different thing that will affect wheter or not the labeld dvd will work fine or not!

I don't think the label it self is the most importent factor. But at first i used cheap crap labels, those started wobbeld after some time and didnt play at all in the dvd. But after that i have used more expensive labels like Neato and avery glossy and semiglossy fullface labels. No wobbels or any problem with any of those labels. So I think it has more to do with media and other factors.

[FOO]

All the concern here seems to be about radial weight.
Has anyone considered that there is a top spindle
that drops down on the disk that may cause wobble
with a non uniform relatively thick addition to the disk. ?

[Tommyknocker]

But if a thin hub label is on the disk, the chance of radial weight wobble or spindle wobble induced by a top spindle is reduced by up to 80% as opposed to a full label by the hub label's lesser weight alone. Just my opinion.

[kisrum]

I don't label CD's or DVD's. After having CD's go through a flood, and having the label glue and paper turn to sludge, and in some cases contaminate the bottom of other CD's, I decided it just wasn't worth it. Unlabeled, ungluey CD's played fine after the flood. Labeled CD's did not, without EXTENSIVE rehab.

No experience with DVD labels, but I still won't do it, especially since they are more likely to have important memories rather than just tunes.

[g12345567]

I am now experiencing problems with some mp3 cdr's with matt lables.
the mp3 cds without lables every track plays fine.
the mp3 cds with lables after a while start to play up jump all over the place or even eventually freeze the player having to turn the power of to reset.
As stated earlier I was thinking it may be the amount of heat inside the player. They do tend to generate a fair bit. Anybody confirm this?

i'm using them on a stand alone dvd player with mp3 compatable

lables don't cause problems on my portable cd/mp3 player because there is nothing in contact with lables unlike cd/dvd players that clamp on both sides.

On a side note I have left my DVD player Cool Down For An Hour And now the labled CDR Discs All Play fine.

The labels I am using have an adverse affect to heat if my player has been left on for a very long time. Affecting playback of media.

p.s. haven't tried labeling my dvdr's yet.

Does the type of disc surface affect the lable quality.

ie there are discs with a labeled surface or plain surface of a partiular color.
Whislt other cd media with no such label looks exactly the same on both top and bottom surface which could eaasily accept a lable.

[bravo]

I too have the same problems with DVD-R - blockies, freezing pictures towards the end of the disc. I too had labelled my DVD-R and after removal of the label (cheap labels not very sticky) the disc is fine - I guess this confirms the problem.

Don't believe it is media related as I see this on both Pioneer original media and Imation (both suppossedly "better" brands).

Have noticed that the problem starts to occur towards the end of the disc, but after it has occurred it will be evident towards the beginning if the disc is replayed. Not quantified exact details........

I have never labled my dvd-rs and i still get the freezing at the end of disks. I think it is something else besides the labels. What i don't know.
Also the same disk seems to play all the way with no problems in one dvd player and then freeze up in the next one. It happens all the time. So i think it might be the dvd player or the media.

[proton]

But my real point is where can I buy hub labels and software in the UK?? web sites or retail?

http://www.surething.uk.com/

Can't find hub labels on that website!

[DavidEC]

I feel that labeling of DVD's seems to have more to do with the media and the labels combined....

I have a DVD+R/RW drive....

While I have had troubles with "Verbatim" brand of disc's... both unlabeld and labeled.

Yet I have never had trouble with "Maxell", "Phillips", or "Memorex" brands of discs..

And I am using cheap 'eBay' purchased bulk "Neto Style' generic "Mate" lables that are very thin paper stock..... after printing the label I allow the ink to dry for at least an haour if not longer before applying the label to the disc.

To make sure that I do not get finger prints all over the read side of the disc I use a blank CD to press the disc face down onto the label... then I take a plastic "dummy" credit card and smooth out the label from the center hub out to the edge...

I have burned close to 40 DVD+R's to date..

And everyone has played back just fine....

[Tommyknocker]

The thing is, lots of people have labeled CDs with very few, if any problems. Hpwever, many people also have problems with the disks they label, and not with the ones they do not label.

[Kingnog]

My labeled vcd/svcd's seem to have problems. (Im not using DVD disks) The 'pauses' get worse later on in the movie, until its every few seconds. However, my cd's that are NOT labeled dont have problems, but I havent tested them without their labels to be sure.

[RabidDog]

proton .. i could only find hub labels as part of a larger pack .. not a cost effective way of getting them.

[videobruce]

Has anyone just used labels from labeling machines as ones from Brother (P-Touch series) as opposed to full round cover the whole disk labels which I assume that is what everyone is talking about?

I use these P-Touch labels with regular CD's with no known problems. I make the label as short as possible and apply it as close to the center as possibel. If I need 2 labels I put them on opposite sides of the disc to balance it out. I do realize DVD's are probably more sensisitive than just DR-R's.

[stuart49]

I have labelled hundreds of dvds and it is not really the label that is the problem but the quality of the blank dvd,stick a label on a verbatim or good quality dvdr and you should have no problems,cheaper dvdrs is when the problem starts,a good quality twin waive laser dvd player will read the cheap media well but a poor cheap machine or PS2 probably will have problems...in the end you only get what you pay for so buy the best media and/or dvd player you can afford to eliminate...

[trossin]

I use DVD+R in a Panasonic RV-31 labeled with matt labels applied with a CD stomper and have had no problems. As far as the off balance theory goes, Blockbuster used to put magnetic anti-theft strips on the disks and my player had no problem with them. The player did make a little noise to let me know the disk was off balance. Maybe other folks did have problems so they stopped applying the bars.

[Espen]

Well Stuart49 I think you are right. I have find out that differnet media handel labels very different. My labeld datawrite dvd+r freeze in all poor dvd player, but also in piooner and panasonic, which are pretty expensive players. About 6/7 of my Neo premium dvd+r(most stabel media so far) plays in evry player with out problems. However my two players, a sony and a Philips plays all my labeld dvd+r just fine, no matter what media.

Just bought a pack of Ritek and verbatim. The first Ritek I burnt and labeld did freeze in a poor player. Havent burnt any of the Verbatim jet hope they will be as good as my Neo premium was.

[harpe025]

The weight of the ink would be negligable (plus most of the labels I print have full ink coverage), and yes the lables are circular and centred properly.

I too have burned over 160 DVD-Rs and no one has reported a problem to me nor have I had a problem with any I have played (or bought from people). I apply mine carefully and although the weight of the ink shouldn't matter, try to have graphics equally spaced on the label. I have a graphic in the top, bottom, and two sides centered from the edges and middle. I figure this should aleviate any balancing problems with ink (should that be the case).