GET YOUR NORMAL 56K MODEM UP TO 252K!!!!!!!!!!!

[baker]

An fella just won the young irish science award for software, yes software! which will do just that. put a normal 56k modem up to 4-5 times fasteer!!!

He just patented the software yesterday and its unknown how to get a copy of it. But yes this story IS true.

So what ya think?

Baker

[BJ_M]

good trick considering at the other end (phone company) the system would still be only at 56k ...


somehow i picture water cooling a modem

[baker]

Not much is really known about the software as of yet. But it does work. It is possible that the software will need an internet provider which offers the service. Of course this means this young man will probably end up selling his software to the highest bidder (lets face it aol) and make himself millions.

He had a very bad voice and sadly when he said the full name for his software I couldn't understand him. I think I heard graphical modem and interface, possibly not in that order.

Either way this is a VERY intresting developement for the internet.

Baker

[Conquest10]

last month on vacation to california they had this channel called tech tv or something like that. they talked about an isp that promised to do just that. they tested it out and what they found out was that it wasn't that great. what it does is disable ads from loading on to the page. it also looks in your cache first to see if you have the page in there already before it connects to it. in the end they said that it isn't worth it. real broadband is the way to go.

[baker]

ehh no.

Thats one of hem shitty ad blocker thingys. this gets your actuall data up to 4-5x faster.

Baker

[zzyzzx]

Tech TV is nationwide. We have it here in Maryland.

And I see no such think as 256K modems. Would be great unless they want $50/ month for it just the same. Somehow I'm sure that they will find a way to gouge everyone if they go to this. And yes I'm still using dialup (for free) and have no intention to change that anytime soon.

[sterno]

Yeah, TechTV is national - it used to be called ZDTV (as in Ziff-Davis, publisher of a few decent tech magazines and a lot of totally worthless ones).

I'm sure any service that offers something like this will probably charge extra. After all, they used to charge extra for 9600k connections because they were so much faster than the 300-2400 that most people were using at the time.

[BJ_M]

most ISP 's now are broke or close to it -- even AOL is hurting ..

the infrastructure to replace billions of $$ worth of rack modems just will not happen - to what end ? they cant charge more or you might as well get broadband. also its a huge ripple effect , if they did change out millions of rack modems and concentrators they would also have to change out thier infrastructure, routers, and backbone -- all adding a lot to the cost of equipment which isnt fully depreciated yet or in many cases, leased.

you also get the problem of the phone lines themselves in many areas of the world (in usa even they are really bad) are just not that good .. right now you have limitations on DSL and distance from a switching station ..

high speed connections just do not work through switchs and such.

cable and dsl right now , for most companies, is losing money (look what happened to @home) and small ISP are dropping like flies .. not all , but many ..

[Conquest10]

tech tv is nationwide? then why don't i get it here in chicago? not even on digital cable.

[sterno]

Because not all cable feeds are carried by all cable providers. They only carry the networks that they think will increase their profits. You could always call up Ameritech (they are still the cable company in Chicago, right?) and ask.

[Conquest10]

naw, ameritech is the phone company. but they changed their name to sbc. the cable company is at&t. if they do decide to carry the channel, it'll most likely be on digital. i hate what they've done. they took off all ppv channels off regular cable. so now if i want to watch a ppv channel i have to get digital cable that so far only has channels like the golf and game show networks, pay extra to lease the box/receiver, then pay whatever the event/movie costs.

[zzyzzx]

most ISP 's now are broke or close to it -- even AOL is hurting ..

cable and dsl right now , for most companies, is losing money (look what happened to @home) and small ISP are dropping like flies .. not all , but many ..

I have a hard time believeing that someplace that charges $50/month for internet service is going broke when there are places charging $10/month (sometimes less) for dialup. I'd have to think that cable or DSL is a high profit margin item. As far as your comment about equipment switchout regular dialup modems are dirt cheap and I'm not totally convinced that new ones would that much more except for the fact that it would be a new thing so of course they charge more but who is going to charge more for a dialup modem vs a cable modem so there would be a limtation there.

Having said all of this I'll still believe it when I see it.

[zzyzzx]

naw, ameritech is the phone company. but they changed they're name to sbc. the cable company is at&t. if they do decide to carry the channel, it'll most likely be on digital. i hate what they've done. they took off all ppv channels off regular cable. so now if i want to watch a ppv channel i have to get digital cable that so far only has channels like the golf and game show networks, pay extra to lease the box/receiver, then pay whatever the event/movie costs.

So I take it this means that your descrambler no longer works?

[Conquest10]

no, i didn't have one. my cousin had one though. i used to always be trying to go to his house.

[BJ_M]

most ISP 's now are broke or close to it -- even AOL is hurting ..

cable and dsl right now , for most companies, is losing money (look what happened to @home) and small ISP are dropping like flies .. not all , but many ..

I have a hard time believeing that someplace that charges $50/month for internet service is going broke when there are places charging $10/month (sometimes less) for dialup. I'd have to think that cable or DSL is a high profit margin item. As far as your comment about equipment switchout regular dialup modems are dirt cheap and I'm not totally convinced that new ones would that much more except for the fact that it would be a new thing so of course they charge more but who is going to charge more for a dialup modem vs a cable modem so there would be a limtation there.

Having said all of this I'll still believe it when I see it.

yes it is true that most all dsl and cable providers are operating at a loss ... do some research and it will quickly find it is true ..

as for dial up modems being dirt cheap ... maybe for a cheapo winmodem that is a one per PC -- but ISP's dont use winmodems

here is a price list for digital modems as used by ISP's :

5536-000 PCI 1 Port PRI E1/T1 with 12 digital modems 5Y US$ 3223
5536-001 PCI 2 Port PRI E1/T1 with 12 digital modems 5Y US$ 4321
5536-002 PCI 1 Port PRI E1/T1 with 24 digital modems 5Y US$ 4697
5536-004 PCI 2 Port PRI E1/T1 with 24 digital modems 5Y US$ 2847
5536-003 PCI 1 Port PRI E1/T1 with 30 digital modems 5Y US$ 4795
5536-005 PCI 2 Port PRI E1/T1 with 30 digital modems 5Y US$ 3338

Datafire RAS
• Modem concentrators supporting up to 60 channels per adaptor
• Supports simultaneous K56/V.90 modem
DEB2648 RAS48 PT2 $6399.99 no modems included

those are just the cards


another factor are line (voice) concentrators that are sometimes used in rural areas, or in high-density housing areas such as apartment blocks, where the cost of running additional copper cables is prohibitive. Concentrators take up to 8 phone lines and convert them into digital signals, run those signals through a single phone line, and then break them back out into 8 lines at the telephone switch office. The maximum baud rate (connect speed) of one of these lines is 28800. you can't get around it.

[baker]

IT WAS IN FACT, AS SOME OF US TOUGHT.

IT WAS A LOAD OF D BULLSHITE

IT WASN'T INTERNET SEPPED THAT GOT SPED UP BY 400%. IT WAS INTERNET USAGE.

NOW WHAT D **** THAT MEANS i DONT BLOODY KNOWW!!!!

Baker

[devinemi83]

the only way I know of to "speed up" a connection is to have the data you send and request to be compressed. That way the files will arrive sooner than if they were full. But that could raise server issues since the compression and decomp could take a while.

[baker]

the only way I know of to "speed up" a connection is to have the data you send and request to be compressed. That way the files will arrive sooner than if they were full. But that could raise server issues since the compression and decomp could take a while.

I tought compression was already in use but when I checked my modem thingy I got:

sent compresion=42%
recieved compression=2%

Why is the company I use sing such a low compression, if they also used 48% we would be flying!

Baker

[BJ_M]

some things dont compress well -- since you are downloading divx or vcd , they will not be compressed much at all ..

[baker]

yea thats strange how some things do/don't compress well. A friend gave me a game he was working on that was under 1meg compressed. But when I unzipped it it was... wait for it... 9MEGS!

It was winrar by the way.

Baker

[Conquest10]

i once downloaded file that was 967 kb. but when i unzipped it, the files totaled 42 MB!

[baker]

Now that I find hard to believe.

Baker

[Conquest10]

yeah i didn't believe it either. there was a read me file that i read that said the files were 42 MB. i couldn't believe it cuz the file was only 967 kb so i checked it out and it was a total of 42 MB!

[BJ_M]

no - that i have seen also and its not hard to do ... its basicly an emtpy file of all 0 's or 1 's and compress's really small ..

this was part of some copy protection thing a few years ago but also people used to use something like it for other things relating to ftp sites ..

[baker]

I am intrested now! Dont suppose you have the files? The reason I am intrested is that I know that mpeg files are designed not to take up much space so you should never zip them as it is not worth it.

Baker

[jeex]

okay. let me give you guys a few facts..

first of all, depending on the kind of data, it can be compressed a crapload.. if any of you are familiar with creating dc games, then you've heard of "dummy files".. they're added to the beggining of the disc so that the actual data used is read from the outside of the disc, which makes for quicker load times.. these dummy files can be compressed to below 1mb and extract to like 100mb.. really incredible..

and as for being able to download at 252k over a 56k modem.. i'm not sure what the guy is doing to make this possible.. but i have actually downloaded at 16k/sec with a 56k dialup modem.. it actually happened.. there was no cache or anything screwy.. it was an mp3 sent to me through icq with someone who had dsl service.. i even divided the time by file size just to be sure my eyes werent playing tricks on me.. it was just a fluke.. maybe a burst transfer or something.

anyhow, thats it.

[Faustus]

If true hes quickly going to become a rich man... however I have a hard time with this one...

I also have gotten some strange speeds a few times with my 56k, but there is a limit on compression without it being lossy and data cannot be compresses lossy and survive the trasfer, it needs it all one way or another.

But then maybe he's onto somethig, I guess I'll believe it when I see it is what I'm saying...

uh... just realized I missed some post in this thread... internet usage? Man do you have any links? I'm now leaning toward crackpot for this guy.

Lastly as far as small zips that are huge we always wanted to create one that was about 500mb and put in on a friends hard drive and watch him freak when he unzipped it. Of course it wouldn't be as fun now since a) most hdds are over 500mb and b) its easier to see something is going on since unzips are not done in DOS anylonger.

[BJ_M]

here is some info on the big dummy files that used to be used in copy protection of some games and at least one audio program http://www.cdmediaworld.com/hardware/cdrom/cd_protections_dummy_files.shtml

i don't know how to make these files -- i recall there was a app used by people to make them, to get credits. i suppose you could make a file with all 1 's in it and it would compress very small but i suspect it was more than that ..

[baker]

Just want to make sure you guys now know this post is a load of bollox. The guy said in his mumbly voice:

my new software lets the ordinary 56k modem get up to 400% more usage.

And I made a shite of it. I dont know what usage means but I bet it dosn't mean a vcd quailty divx in an hour or two

Baker

[Betamax]

Be smart : get yourself ADSL (up = 128kbps, down = 1Mbps)