Help with Ripping dvd to svcd with subtitles

[Gideon30]

I have a few DVD's that I want to rip into Svcd's and as they are HK films, I want the subtitles. I have seen many guides on this site, on the Flexion site, and on dvdripguides.com. They all give me lots of info but none seem to tell me everything to do. I want to end up with svcd format in the 23.9 fps film mode as that seems to be recommended. What would be the best way to go about this? I'm guessing smartripper - flask (for subtitles) - frameserve to tmpgenc and pick the svcd ntsc film template. Does this sound about right?

[Vejita-sama]

The flexon site at http://www.flexion.org/video/DVDConv/DVD2AVI/index.html tells you ALL the steps, but it uses VDub instead of flask. You've got the basic idea.

As for 30fps vs. 24fps, that's a little different. Take a look at http://www.inwards.com/~dbb/interlace_myths.html for more info. Here's how it works (as I understand it):

You're TV is setup to play at 30fps interlace source. However, movies are shot at 24fps. In order to allow the 24fps source to play on your 30fps TV you have to apply a process called 'telecine' 'aka 3:2 pulldown'

Telecine 24fps -> 30fps

you can also apply an inverse telecine filter to do the reverse:

IVTC 30fps -> 24fps

Why would you want to do this. Well two reasons:

1) the x(S)VCD standard is for kbit/s NOT frames/s. So for the same bitrate you get a higer bits/frame ratio at 24fps than 30fps.

30fps @ 2000kbit/s = 66.6kbit/frame
24fps @ 2000kbit/s = 83.3kbit/frame

so it's like you upped the bitrate, and you get a better quaility encode. But IVTC takes a long time to run.

2) This is my problem/confusion is I do a lot of Japanese Anime DVD rips and they can are often hybrids with: progessive, interlace, 30fps, 24fps, 60fields/s, etc. etc. mixed in. Here you sort of have to run IVTC to 'normalize' all the multiple formats that the animators used to make the source. eg. TV openinging @30fps, actually show at 24fps, CGI stuff at 60fields/s, etc. I still haven't 100% figured this one out thou

Luck