Adding Subtitles To DVD encoded LOTR - FOTR

[marvel2020]

Hi There,

I've just finshed encoding Part 1 the Extended Version Of the Lord Of The Rings - The Fellowship Of The Ring. with the intention of putting both parts onto 1 DVD-r.

As you if you have watched it, when they talk in Elve'sh, English subtitles appear to let you know what they are saying.

I have rip the said English subtitles from the Vob's and i want to know if it's possible to add them to the finshed Mpeg2 file so that they appear when they talk just like in the orignal DVD

I used DVD2SVCD setup for DVD encoding and i tried the subtitle option in that but it did not work.

Is it possible to add them, and if so how ???

Any help at all would be most welcomed.

Thx in advance

[marvel2020]

Update...

I Found out how to do it, although i have to re-encode again

[spiderman2k1]

How did you do it please tell thanks

[andybno1]

please do share how you done it, I have done a rip of star wars ep2 and where there are subs for alien talk I have not got showing in the final svcd how did you do it?

[marvel2020]

Ok Ok Ok since you being so nice to me

I'll tell ya

First of all i like to get the Thanks out of the way first to the People who help me with there guide's...

Big thanks goto to Trueman for his excellent guide on adding permanent subtitles which can be found here....

http://www.vcdhelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=87065&highlight=adding+subtitles


And Thanks also go's to flaystus for his guide in Using DVD2SVCD for DVD encoding which can be found here....

http://www.vcdhelp.com/forum/userguides/121195.php


And for this little guide i'll use the Lord Of The Rings Extended Version


Tools you gonna need

DVD2SVCD
DVD Decrypter (or smartripper)
VobSub
Subrip
VirtualDub


Once you have downloaded, install the Programmes, make sure when you install Vobsub that you install the textsub.vdf and vobsub_vd.vdf into Vdub's Plugin Folder these can be found in the dropdown install window in Vobsub.


Anyway Rip the DVD to your harddrive using DVD Decrypter.


Now setup DVD2SVCD according to Flaystus guide if your gonna do a DVD encode with the intention of buring to DVD-r, if your doing a SVCD, leave most of the settings alone except for the Framserver Tab, change the "EDIT THE AVISYNTH SCRIPT FILE" to "EDIT WHEN DVD2AVI IS DONE", you can also change the number of cd's you gonna use in the Birate Tab.


"You can use the Subrip guide on Doom9's site for getting the correct subtitles that you need, the only thing i'll add is that when you have finish adding the letters manualy and it has finish scanning your vob's and you have set the up on how they will appear on the video after encoding save them as a .srt file and then close Subrip down."

On the conversion tab in DVD2SVCD load up your ifo file and set your Apsect Ratio to what ever you want the just click go/start converison after it has gone through the DVD2AVI part a window will popup and look something like this....

LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\MPEG2Dec\mpeg2dec .dll")
mpeg2source("D:\SPRUCE~2\DVD2AV~1.D2V")
BicubicResize(720,576,0.0,0.6)

As you can see this is the AVIsynth file and all we're gonna do is add the following 2 lines...

LoadPlugin("C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Desktop\VCD Tools\VirtualDub-1_4_9\plugins\textsub.vdf") <---- This is where i have Vdub installed you will have type in where yours is.

TextSub("C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Desktop\VCD Tools\SubRip\******.srt") <----same goes from Subrip as well
"Where **** is the name of your saved subs"


So that it looks lsomething like this....

LoadPlugin("C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Desktop\VCD Tools\VirtualDub-1_4_9\plugins\textsub.vdf")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\MPEG2Dec\mpeg2dec .dll")
mpeg2source("D:\SPRUCE~2\DVD2AV~1.D2V")
BicubicResize(720,576,0.0,0.6)
TextSub("C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Desktop\VCD Tools\SubRip\******.srt")


The just click on the save button the hit OK.

Now go for good long sleep or even 2 week holiday cause it's gonna take a while depending on the speed of your PC.

[andybno1]

cheers, will give it a go later

[andybno1]

just done a test using that script and got permanent subs for the selected chapter not just where the elves are talkin.

[marvel2020]

Sounds like there's a a problem with the subs you rip. i don't know excactly what the problem is.

The way i done it was Startup Subrip, Goto file/open vobs or just click on the Vob button directly below file then select the openifo button and open up your ifo.

Then i selected the correct subs by using the langauge Stream at the top and selected 05-English 1, wide letterbox<---(the way i found out that these where subs i was looking for was when i tried to use DVD2SVCD to add the subs to the finshed Mpeg2 file and it selected 01-English 0 and 05 English 1 as the main subs.).

Then it was just a matter of choosing the right ones.

Anyway on the Action option to the right, make sure that you Check the SubPictures to Text Via OCR then just hit start.

It will scan through the subtitles untill it finds the first one and now you have to enter the way you want them to appear on screen. Also make sure that you set the correct Framerate 25.000 for PAL or 29,970 for NTSC.

On The Font Color Correction Screen that will appear i choose'd color 1 and then click ok.

On The Next screen i had to manualy Type in the same letter that is highlighted in the Small window and click ok for every letter.

Once that was all done i just went to File/SaveAS and saved it as Lord1.srt.

What i done was to make Avisynth file like i explained on the other post, save it as Lord1.avs, right click on and open it up with windows media player and scrolled to the part where the first subtitle appears which is the Liv Tyler/Frodo scene and the Subtitles appeared as they are suppose to.

I Then startedup DVD2SVCD, and added then 2 lines that i told you about save it and click ok and just let it encode.

Now i finished both DVD's and joined the 2 parts together and burnt it to DVD-r and the Subtitles appear on Cue.

[andybno1]

well I done exactly like you said I used the exact same scene as you but I'm still getting nothing, here is the avs script:

LoadPlugin("C:\VirtualDub\plugins\textsub.vdf")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\MPEG2Dec\mpeg2dec .dll")
mpeg2source("C:\DVD2SVCD\Source\DVD2AV~1.D2V")
BicubicResize(480,432,0.0,0.6)
AddBorders(0,72,0,72)
TextSub("C:\lotr.srt")

[marvel2020]

First of all look at your lotr.srt on your c:\ , doe's it actually say lotr.srt or does it say lotr.srt.txt.

If it doe's say lotr.srt.txt, goto to Tools/Folder Options/View and UNCHECK the HIDE EXTENSIONS FROM KNOWN FILE TYPES then just click apply and then OK.

Now rip the subtitle's again and this time save as "lotr.srt" <----include the " as well.

It should now be saved properly.

Thats the only reason why i think it's not working.

[andybno1]

there was no txt in the extension just lotr.srt.

anyway I managed to rip the subs using dvd2svcd, I chose the bottom subs and it worked.

[marvel2020]

Cool,

I choose'd the bottom ones as well but it didn;t work for me when i tried it.

Think it was because i was making a 720x576 Mpeg2 DVD format and not SVCD.

Anyway i'm doing the film again but making it Full Screen.

[andybno1]

u have to have the subtitles in dvd2svcd set to permanent sutitles

[marvel2020]

I think i done that and it still didn't work, but i'll try again on the second DVD tonight

[Ciuko]

Help Me!
I've followed every step of your guide .. using the same DVD .. LOTR Extended ... Permanent Subtitles CORRECTLY works ... but there is a problem ...
In the Original DVD Subtitles show up above the VIDEO but in my Backup they appears only on the bottom black bar ...
If i watch the movie on the original resolution (16-9 CL) i see only half subtitle .. i must stretch to Panoramic to see it correctly.
My question is .. it's a problem caused by encoding? (i've used 16:9 encoded as 4:3 in DVD2SVCD?)
When i've inserted the ORIGINAL DVD and i've clicked upon the DISC i've get this setting ..
Thanks!

[marvel2020]

Ciuko...

I have the same problem LOL i wrote the guide .

The way around it is to let DVD2SVCD add the Permant Subtitles like andybno1 said, just encode the film as it is, except Set the Aspect Ratio to Anamorphic and set your Subtitles to Permanent in DVD2SVCD and make sure you choose the correct subtitles when doing so.

Now i had a problem with DISC1 where DVD2SVCD didn't reconize the Subtitles that i needed, so i had to use IFOedit to Strip the main movie and the correct subtitles then use DVD2SVCD to encode it.

When done the subtitles appeared on top of the Black Borders.

[andybno1]

right, your on about when you got dvd2svcd to get the subtitles from disc 1? it should only show 4 out of the 5 subtitles that are available at the first subtitle point in the movie, what you have to do there is when it brings the subtitles program up, deselect the first one and select the blank bottom one, then click on show next in the bottom right hand corner of the program window and it will then scan through the movie till it finds the subs, edit the way the subtitles as you wish and click ok, when dvd2svcd has finished it SHOULD (I stretch this point as I find dvd2svcd isn't 100% reliable) have encoded the video with permanent subs. I used fitcd and edited the avs script in there and then processed the avs through tmpgenc which works every time for me.

if you want the avs script code, let me know.

[Ciuko]

I've made some test ... if i set in DVD2SVCD Anamorphic (16:9) and then i use (like you wrote) subrip+virtualdubplugin in AVSscript , things works fine .. probably i must check every DVD to see what's the appropriate encode format.