thanks to bj_m for telling me how to join svcd mpeg clips,using avi/mpeg joiner from boilsoft,that joined them ok,but now because each file has a slight overlap at the join,so i need to cut the end of the files slightly,tmpgenc screws up bigtime when i try to cut,sound go's and the end stays the same as it was before,ive got hold of vcdcutter,marked my in then marked my out but i cant add the clip to process the cut,the icon remains greyed out?
any help on this,or link to another program will be appreciated.

jonx