Standalone player cannot play DVD made from DV camcorder

[batman0105]

Has anyone experienced issues with playing DVD's created from a camcorder/DV source on a standalone player?

I have a Philips Magnavox and Pioneer DVD player(s) and what I am finding is that the Pioneer will play anything I throw at it, but the Philips seems to be unable to playback a DVD-R that I made from a camcorder, but I made a backup of a DVD that I bought and it plays great.

Can anyone explain why this might be so?

Thanks!

[donpedro]

It would be helpful if you can provide more info...

Capturing, Editing, Authoring and Burning software. Burning hardware and DVD-R Media. DVD Player model too.

Not that I can help you, but I think that anybody who can, need this info.

Good luck !

[batman0105]

Sorry, here it is:

The DVD player that is unable to read DVD-R's made from DV source is a Philips Magnavox DVD825. The burner is a Pioneer DVR-A05.

DV clips were encoded via VDub and TMPGEnc using the default DVD NTSC template. Authored with either Spruceup or Movie Factory and burned with either Nero (titles) and DVD Decrypter (image). None of the above were successful (error="No disc"). However, using DVD Decrypter to copy a DVD that I had bought onto the same kind of media (Maxell) was successful.

No problems were encountered when playing any of the above on a Pioneer DV-250 DVD player.

[disturbed1]

Since the hollywood dvd back up played in your DVD player, but your home brew didn't, it has to be your authoring method.

What is your audio type for your home made dvd?
MPEG audio is not a spec for NTSC DVD audio. Although most DVD players accept it, your Philips may not.

You can try to use LPCM, or ac3. If you don't have an ac3 encoder, you can try besweet which includes ac3enc from the ffmpeg project.

My buddie has the same Philips as you, and it plays Princo's and Ritek's authored with Maestro and or Reel DVD just fine.

I use 3 methods for capture/encode. Hardware Mpeg2, AVI via avi_io, DV via Premiere.

AVI and DV are edited with Premiere and encoded with Main Concept's mpeg encoder.

I always use ac3 audio.

Movie Factory doesn't use ac3, but Spruce up does. Have the video and audio named the same, and Spruce will import the audio.

[batman0105]

Thanks for the reply. I had considered the audio, as the home brews are using mpeg audio, but the same player plays VCD's and SVCD's, so wouldn't that mean that it does support mpeg audio?

[MCD]

You said you tried burning with nero. I was just wondering if you tried burning in DVD-ROM UDF mode? After the very recent threads on this topic, I started burning all my dvds in this mode. Now they play in every player I have tried ( even that peskie magnavox 611 I was having so much trouble with). It works great for me, while others might disagree. May want to give that a shot. Just my 2 cents worth.

[batman0105]

I was under the impression that ac3 was if you were doing Dolby 5:1 or similar. You can use ac3 for plain old 2 track stereo audio? I'm glad you mentioned this as I have been fuzzy on the usage of ac3.

Thanks!

[disturbed1]

Thanks for the reply. I had considered the audio, as the home brews are using mpeg audio, but the same player plays VCD's and SVCD's, so wouldn't that mean that it does support mpeg audio?

DVD's use 48KHZ audio, so all DVD players should play VCD's with 48khz audio right?

My apex players won't play these vcd's.

Make a test disc with LPCM or ac3 to see if it solves your problems.

[batman0105]

Well, the VCD's and SVCD's that have worked were 44.1/mpeg. Perhaps the Philips doesn't like mpeg at 48?

Anyway, thanks, I will test it again with a different audio format.

[jopereira]

Just a detail: just because a DVD player plays DVD's (48K) and VCD (44k) does mean it can read VCD @ 48 or DVD @ 44!

Most of them do, but not necessarily.
My Pioneer 535 does read SVCD @ both 44 or 48. It also reads SVCD @ strange resolution, both PAL or NTSC, and it's not even SVCD certified!!

If it has certified, probably it would only read SVCD @ 480x576 @ 44k audio .

BTW, Philips is the big stimulator of MPEG audio.

JP
Porttugal

[batman0105]

Aside from compatibility and Dolby 5:1, are there any real advantages to using ac3 audio for DVD authoring rather than mpeg or LPCM?

[batman0105]

Thanks to all for your help. Using ac3 audio was apparently the trick to get the Philips to read the DVD-R's. Looks like it will be ac3 for me from now on.