Cinema Craft Encoder

[freak_in_cage_10k]

Hi, i am interested in the difference between the two offline Cinema Craft Encoders, avalible at

http://www.cinemacraft.com/eng/home.html

One Is Called "CCE-SP" and the other is called "CCE-Lite"

is there any significant difference between the two versions???

Thanks Very much for your help & advice

[adam]

On that page all you have to do is click on each of the available encoders and it will give you all of its specs.

The main difference is that the lite version only supports CBR.

[BJ_M]

price and also CCE-Lite doesnt support VBR and also has only fixed CBR data rates .. a lot of other things also ..

CCE has a chart on thier site with all the diff.

[BJ_M]

chart is here : http://www.cinemacraft.com/eng/spec.html

[freak_in_cage_10k]

Thanks a lot for your help adam & BJ_M, really appreciated

jus out of interest, what would you say was better, TMPG or CCE? (my TMPG trial is running out ya see!)

also, i am runnin a AMD 2000+, with 1 gig of SD Ram- i have herd that CCE may crash when running under a AMD system, is this true???

[banjazzer]

jus out of interest, what would you say was better, TMPG or CCE?

I doubt you will find a consensus on this. Both progs, when used properly, will produce top-quality mpeg-2 from a quality source. CCE is much quicker, TMPG is much cheaper.

i have herd that CCE may crash when running under a AMD system,

I only use AMD systems and have not experienced any problems with CCE. I will qualify that - I never managed to get 2.5 to work, and that could be AMD-related. Cerainly 2.6x works fine.

[uteotw]

The crash is related to frameserving to CCE.

See extract from doom9.org guide talking about Avisynth :

LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\mpeg2dec.dll")
mpeg2source("D:\rmd\rmd.d2v")
ResampleAudio(44100)

Then replace the path of mpeg2dec.dll with the actual path of the file on your system and do the same for the mpeg2source command. The last line is used to trick CCE into believing that the input file has an audio track. Otherwise CCE would crash when being run on an AMD processor.

uteotw

[adam]

The only bug I know of between AMD processors and CCE is the above mentioned resample audio command that must be present if you don't actually have audio. Other than that you just need to not encode audio in CCE, but there are so many better alternatives anyway.

I have been running CCE 2.5 on AMD processors for years now and I can honestly say that I have never had a single crash that I couldn't attribute to a mistake on my part.

[freak_in_cage_10k]

Thanks a lot for your help banjazzer, adam and uteotw, cheers!!! Happy encoding!

[tjclement]

I have a major complaint with Cinema Craft Encoder (i.e.CCE 2.5), that maybe someone can help me with. When I encode any DVD video using the Cinema Craft encoder, (720x480), the resulting video is jittery during panning, or quick movement of the video. If I encode SVCD using CCE, it works just fine (480x480). Using DVD2SVCD, I get good results, but using DVD2DVDR, the resulting video is jittery (jerky). Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

[banjazzer]

I though Cinema Craft Encoder was CCE.

[BJ_M]

I though Cinema Craft Encoder was CCE. :roll:

i had to re-read it twice also .. he says if encodes svcd w/ cce its ok .. and if he encodes dvd w/ cce -> its not ..

[SLK001]

He probably has the ol' "field order" problem.

[tjclement]

Ok, how do you change the Field Order problem, since this program is essentially run by script.

[banjazzer]

One way would be to use DVD2AVI to provide a project file (.d2v). Load this into TMPG and play around with the field order. Save a project file (.tpr) from TMPG. Convert to pseudo-avi with VFAPI Converter, and load into CCE. I'm sure there are numerous other ways. 8)