encoded vcd plays fine in wmp but not on my dvd??

[ej]

Hi, I've been creating my own vcds now for a while, but recently I've been experimenting with encoding two 700mb avis onto one cd using tmpgenc, and reducing the bitrate to fit one 650 mb disc. The last couple come out all blocky when I try to play them in my dvd. However they play fine on my pc?! Could there be a minimum bitrate for the dvd player?

[mats.hogberg]

I don't think there's a lowest bitrate limit for a DVD player. How many minutes of movie have you squeezed into the CD?
Even if it looks OK on the computer at 1:1 resolution (352*288 PAL), it may still look like sh*t when expanded to fill your 28/32/?? inch TV screen.

/Mats

[ej]

I squeezed a two hour movie onto 650 mb disc. bitrate was around 500kps. framerate 29.97. Nero said when I tried to burn that I was creating a CD V2.0 (cd-i player) compliant cd, but the mpeg file is not suitable for such a discc. I burned it anyway, that must be my prob. So what do I have to change? Something in Nero?

[tuco1979]

It is nonstandard. You need to check to see if your dvd player supports that which it sounds like it doesn't. Some dvd players do have a minimum bitrate.

[ej]

i have a mintek dvd 1600, whats the dif between standard and non? Send me a link that explains it if you don't want to...thanks!

[mats.hogberg]

ej - for standards - take a look under WHAT IS top left.
If your movie is encoded at 500 kbps, it's no big wonder it looks lousy. That's less than half of standard bitrate!
Depending on what's going on in the movie, you shuldn't lower the bitrate below 1000 kbps. If your player can handle it, VBR (and high motion search precision) can give you better results. You'd better go for a 2 disc set, possibly raising the bitrate (above standard - thus improving quality)to fill both CDs (but going by what you say, you still wont get more than 1000 kbps if you spread it out over 2 CDs).

I just authored 97 min low action movie to a 80 min CD, and by using VBR at 1000 kbps ave and highest motion search precision, it looks pretty good even at the computer screen. But that's as low as I'm willing to go!

/Mats

[ej]

well I figured it out. I had created my own 1 cd templet in TMPGenc, but somehow I had the audio bitrate down to 192 and the res at 320X240, definetly non-standard! My dvd player didn't go for that. I switched it to 224 audio and 352X240 and now I'm good to go. I agree, the low bitrate can give pretty crappy results...I use it for the kids movies, mine I keep on two cds, thanks for you help.