cool new package DVD2DVDR ... !

[defense]

@ arianos, I too used DVD2SVCD first, but mainly for SVCD. I never had a single problem making an SVCD, but when I used some of the advanced options and tried to make a DVD-R, it was hit or miss with the sync in the audio. Some movies were perfect, while others were out of synch by 2 seconds to 20 seconds. I only have NTSC movies. Do you ever get any sync issues with DVD2SVCD? If so, what do you do to correct them? I'm not sure why I get them with DVD-R's, but never with SVCD'S...that's odd I would think. Using DVD2DVDR, I have never had a single sync issue to date, so I'm wondering why I can use the same exact movie that gives me synch issues with DVD2SVCD, but not with DVD2DVDR. If you can supply any info on this, I would appreciate it. Thanks

[clairehoward]

May be i have been lucky, as i have had 3 dvd with audio problems as described in the posts above. One of the films i was told to de-select the last chapter but the other 2 give audion problems in dvd2dvd-r 134, tried usind dvd2dvdr 131 and they worked.

May be using an older version will correct other errors.

[Arianos]

@ defense:

The only times I got sync issues with files made by DVD2SVCD were:
1. When I used files ripped by Decrypter, SmartRipper, or files I had messed heavily with (Joined vobs). IMHO, DVD2SVCD's internal routines is the ULTIMATE ripping tool. If one knows how to use it, that is
2. Some NTSC films (pulldowned) with Ifoedit. But that's Ifoedit's problem, not DVD2SVCD's.
I too have read issues with DVD2SVCD and audio sync, but unfortunately(?) never met them, in a normal movie backup situation.
I do both PAL and NTSC, and so far (I keep my fingers crossed) DVD2SVCD is the only foolproof method for me. If only it could rip DTS and more than 2 Audio streams, I would never have to use Ifoedit.
PLUS it has batch encoding! (For those who rip Multi Episode DVDs: HINT, HINT, HINT!!)
I aggree that DVD2DVDR+ifoedit NEVER have an AUDIO sync issue.
SUB sync on the other hand, now THAT'S a problem
But, I found a way around it (read some pages ago)

I have said, and say again: if Chatwalker and DVD2SVCD (The Author) would work together, awesome things could happen in our little backup world...

P.S.1
Usually the audio files are NOT the same length as the Video files (at most a few seconds), so in Maestro, you HAVE to make synced Audio files. But that is documented in length in all the Maestro guides.
P.S.2
Sometimes, when I put the video file that DVD2SVCD made, the Video Timestamp Offset (that's the movie time under the Wall Clock) goes to some weird number. The immediate result I can see is that the subs get screwed up or cannot be imported at all. Apparently, the sound goes off too, but I have never compiled with that situation. Solution: 1 click on that number, set the SMPTE Time Offset (whatever that is...) to 0.
That's it.

[Frenetic24]

Can someone please tell me if I author with Ifoedit, but the dvd does not require encoding in dvd2dvdr because it is small and will fit on 4.7gig dvdr

why is it that the bug is still present (movie plays to fast) I am loosing 20 minutes on a 1h30 min movie, even though it plays flawlessely and audio is sync and all. I though this would only happen if you need to rencode and use the pulldown flags. Since the movie did not require any encoding, why does ifoedit still authors it wrong?

anyone know??

thanks

[NYPlayer]

Frenetic24
If the DVD is NTSC FILM even if there is no need to encode. The DVD already has the pulldown flags etc... in it. So authoring with IFOEDIT is of no use, to us in the USA or anyone backing up an NTSC film.

[Frenetic24]

Ah DOH! ok, I though I could avoid that one since authoring in ifoedit is such a breeze compared to others... Thanks for tip NYPlayer. is there any other software for authoring we can use (that will understand the files dvd2dvd-r creates dvd maestro?

Whats the latest version of dvd Maestro? 2.9? (before they stopeed supporting it for the pc)

[Antonio S.]

To all people that had post in this forum...

Happy New Year!!!

Antonio S.

[ozzie]

Okay...new problem for me? I am getting a "key search error". It errors out right as I start and then puts up a 5 or so digit pulldown menu that I can select a key. I clicked on the button "keysearch at every cell-id", but had no luck. Then I fooled around with the cell size search scale up top, but still no success. I figured that since it waas the beginning of the movie that I could use all zeros and that would get me started. It started ripping and I do not know what the outcome will be, but at least its something in the right direction. Does anybody know how I can either avoid this in the future or how i can determine the exact key via settings or calculations? Hopefully someone can help with this

oz

[clairehoward]

make sure you have checked "Authenticate DVD Drive" in settings

The other way is to create image with dvd decrypter & mount using demon tools.

These answers have already been posted on back pages for every body.

[RedWingNut]

@ mosh

Hey Bud, just wanted to thank you for all your help a few weeks ago. I have FINALLY gotten DVD2DVDR to work just as you said using your instructions. I think it might have been the version I was using previously. For whatever reason I just burned Insider and it came out just fine.

[newnoiseimage]

pm starting... pm error file not found.

could somebody tell what that means, plus more importantly, what directories are there under your program files/dvd2dvdr folder, and what is contained in them. i couldnt install, so i extracted the cab and need to configure it properly

thanks

[NYPlayer]

When you install make sure U click on the large PC Icon and not on any of the text buttons.

[newnoiseimage]

yeah, i did that several times, got errors in german, the only files were a txt, cab and exe. any other ideas?
thanks

[newnoiseimage]

ohhh!!!! dude ima moron. got it. thanks playa

[[Deadman]]

I found something out.... Whenever dvd2dvdr hangs after re-encoding I found that if I use CBR to encode instead of VBR it works EVERYTIME! Unfortunately I have started getting a new error in which the video_ts.ifo file isn't found. Has anyone figured out what causes that?

[ozzie]

@clairehoward

Sorry about that....I read through this whole thing but must have missed or maybe was to excited about something else I found and just forgot. Anyway, just wanted to thank you for re-iterating it because the image idea worked like a charm....thanx

OZ

[bunginuts]

This program sucks, I mean, no matter what settings I have it is still too big to fit onto a DVD-R. I have the newest version and it always encodes it like 500 MB too big. Any advice or certain settings would be very much valued.



"In my world the grass eats the cows"

[NYPlayer]

bunginuts

In the encoder tab why not just reserve 500 meg?

[bunginuts]

Will do, thank you very much

[newnoiseimage]

why wont ifoedit work with ntsc dvds? i have been using it for a while, but never in the capacity that it is called for here. several people posted what needs to be done after dvd2dvdr completes, is not going to work with an ntsc dvd? also i have to add my name to the list of people who would like vcdhelp to produce a step by step tutorial on how to use this program. im sure chatwalker would help.

thanks

[Frenetic24]

Its not all ifoedit that is to blame, cce has to take part of the blame also, here is some good reading I got off from the forums of doom9;

"IF you want to remux a CCE m2v with IFOEdit READ THIS
I am pretty new to this forum myself, but already I am getting tired of the same question over and over. "How can I use m2v from CCE with IfoEdit". There has to be at least 30+ topics (and hundreds of posts). I post this hoping someone wondering will do a search on CCE & IfoEdit first and find this before posting their question.

The M2V file created by Rempeg2 works with the remux feature of IfoEdit so why does the CCE M2V file not work?

The answer is simple: rempeg2 has more information to work with then CCE SP and is able to maintain the same structure.

This is how REMPEG2 works:
--------------------------
VOB file -> broken into GOPs -> GOPs analyzed and reduced -> new GOP created -> M2V file produced.

This is how CCE SP works:
-------------------------
AVI file -> broken into managable chunks called GOB -> compressed ->
M2V file produced.

CCE requires an uncompressed video stream to work with (avi format). If the AVI is compressed then CCE uncompresses it before it starts working. There are 3 major ways to "setup" the needed AVI. 1) Use DVD2AVI and VFAPI to create a "fake" avi. 2)Use HUFFY AVI codec to create a lossless compression AVI 3) Use DVD2AVI and Avisyth to create a "fake" avi file. So regardless of your method
when CCE starts it uses an uncompressed AVI steam.

*** (Note to the experts: I know this is a simplified version of what is happening, but the purpose is to help newbies)

THE MAJOR DIFFERENCE IS THAT REMPEG2 has access to the ORIGINAL mpeg stream, GOPs, location of I frames, etc..

CCE has none of that. It simply has the uncompressed images (frames) that make up the movie. So CCE creates it's own structure. And for some damn REASON/BUG/FEATURE there is no way to make it follow any set structure. You can try by setting the I frame locations before the encode, but they always seem to be off by 5-15 frames as if CCE knows better.

So although the m2v files from REMPEG, CCE, and original look the same the CCE version is radicaly different.

Ifo makes certain assumtions based on the ifo file and the original vob when it integrates the new video stream. Thos assumptions are correct with REMPEG M2V files because they have the same EXACT strucure they are just smaller. However the assumption fails with CCE because it has a different structure.

This is not a bug with IfoEdit, and can NOT (correct me if I am wrong) be changed easily. It would most likely require a rewrite of the entire remux feature.

So right now you have 2 choices. You can use REMPEG which is slower, cruder, but offers the "1 button" ease. Or you can use CCE which is much faster, higher quality, but is more complicated and WILL NOT REMUX with IfoEdit."

[Frenetic24]

I think we could do the dvd2dvd-r with ifoedit combo with ntsc dvd's if we only use something else to remux. Like for instance Vobedit

Its way to remux CCE mpv streams with IfoEdit (in fact it is vobedit that does all the dirty job). CCE them, remux with vobedit and rejoin to the vts titles.

I am going to give this a try, in the meantime dvdmaestro is the way to go, it works flawlessely. except subttitles are a bitch, wish there was an easier way...

[Neoh]

I just got a wierd message from DVD2DVD-R when I tried to rip the first episode of 1st season of X-Files Region2. It said that it couldn't find a key to decode it and asks me to enter one.
I then tried the second episode and no problem. Any one can help me on how to rip the first episode?

[clairehoward]

This may be a stupid question, but if dvd2dvd-r can pickup cce to re encode the file can it not be written to do the same with rempeg so it works with ntsc.?

[Frenetic24]

@clairehoward

yes i am sure it could happen, but again I am not a programmer and I dont know how hard this could be to implement.

Also, the reason the author uses cce is because it work great with pal and it supports scripts. Not sure for rempeg though...

Guess we still have to wait for now, there is no good defenitive one click button solution... YET!

[clairehoward]

make image usind dvd decrypter and mount using demon tools. dvd2dvd-r will see it as a dvd drive but it has already been decrypted.

[NYPlayer]

Frenetic24,

It is a bug with IFOEDIT. If I choose to rip a DVD that does not require encoding but is NTSC FILM the ifoedit bug still rears its ugly head. So whether I encode or not I cannot not use IFOEDIT for all NTSC FILMs.
If the framerate internally is 23.976 Ifoedit will not author correctly.

[Frenetic24]

NYplayer, hmm I guess you are right, since I experienced that bug as well. DOH! hope Derrow fixes his ifoedit or makes it opensource...

[newnoiseimage]

ok let dvd2dvdr run its course, and it didnt close, had to ctrl-atl del- close it, but all seems finished. the new m2v file seems a bit pixelated. ("the others" ntsc, by the way) i checked progressive and unchecked upper field, should i have also checked force film? that is quiestion one, question two is i now have to remux, and you guys say not to use ifoedit, so where can i get dvdmaestro, or vobedit?can anyone help me get it?

thanks

[Neoh]

@newnoiseimage

The answer: YES you hsould have enable FORCE FILM for anNTSC movie if I have read the whole thread right.