pal to ntsc problems

[shawnthemonster]

hello everyone i am new to the board and i have a question. ok well i have a divx rip that i wanted to burn on my new dvd writer but the only problem is that the movieis in pal and my dvd player is ntsc. so i looked around on this web site (which is very helpful) and found a program called TMPGEnc-2.59.4.155 that i think will turn pal to ntsc. well it worked but the only problem is the movie is twice as long (im not sure but i think it seperated the sound and the video ie. the length)and i get no audio. the dvd is 4.7 gb. what am i doing wrong? can someone please help. thanks.

[Squero]

Dear Shawn,

I don't know the answer to your question, but I am very interested in this issue, because I am going to be converting pal to ntsc using TMPGEnc as well. However, I just saw a posting on this forum which may resolve your problem. http://www.vcdhelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=123969 Hope that is helpful to you.

Thom

[bugster]

you could try this:
http://www.vcdhelp.com/pal2ntsc/pal2ntsc.htm
tho its not perfect.
Personaly I would do the following:

Get virtualdub (tools section)
Start Vdub, open your avi:
Video->Direct Stream copy
Audio->None (you will see why later)
Video->Frame Rate (change to 23.976fps)
File->Save as AVI (save out a new copy of your avi)

Still in vdub:
Audio->Direct stream copy:
File->Save wav (save a copy of the audio from your avi into a wav file)

STILL in vdub:
Open NEW avi as saved previously
File->File information

Look at the 2nd line down #of frames, note the length of the movie:

now download goldwave (www.goldwave.com)
install it and open your previously saved wav file.

Effects->Time Warp - click the TIME radio button and enter the length of the NEW avi you got from vdub earlier

(NOTE: DVD requires 48Khz sample audio, (S)VCD requires 44.1khz if it is to be standard compliant so now is a good time to re-sample the audio if required)

Still in goldwave File->Save as - it defaults to uncompressed PCM format, keep it like that. Save a new copy of the wav file.

You should now have an avi at 23.976fps and a wav file of the same length. Use these as the input to your encoder.

If you are encoding to NTSC for SVCD or DVD, use TmpGenc (or CCE) to produce VIDEO only (.m2v). Then use pulldown.exe (tools section) to add the 3:2 pulldown flags which make it play back at 29.97 fps. Encode audio seperatley and multiplex if required.

Hope this helps

[2man]

hi shawn
summary
pal to ntsc (25fps to 23.976)
VIDEO - frameserve the *.avi to tmpg via *.avs script using the filter AssumeFPS(23.976) and encode using the template to ntsc
the file created will be longer than the origianl (see is length)
AUDIO - in Vdub save the WAV from original *.avi and open it w/ Cooledit2000 - effects - strecht - and adjusts the time of wav to the length of video (seconds).
then multiplex w/tmpeg and burn.
it seems to get smooth picture(never tried) i just did ntsc 23.97 to pal once using avifrate instead of frameserve.
2man