IT IS COMPLETE!!!!!!

[qshartle]

My guide is finished. Its basic but its very graphical.
Here is the link


http://www.angelfire.com/mac/vcdman/index.html

Please post any problems

Qshartle

[Doc Boese]

Hi,

first of all, I want to say "Thank you!" in the name of everyone who is new to this. Now I have some questions. Why do you convert the sound-file seperately? I don't do that. I only use ffmpeg to convert the sound file and to mux it with the video-stream: no problems and fast, fast, fast.

I also have good experiences with OSEx if i don't rip video- and sound-file apart. I only put the complete vob into ffmpeg.

I neither use quicktime, mediapipe or any others of the programms you named. Only: OSEx and ffmpeg. My experience is good with it.

[qshartle]

Have you ever tried trying to convert an Anime movie or show. IT A BITCH! They use variable framereate if you go directly from VOB to VCD or SVCD. I am still trying to get my Cowboy Bebop to work. It has some sync issues, But I have a special setting which I will update today when I come home from school. Its a setting for Pulldown for Anime. I finally got Akira to work and now am trying Princess Mononoke. I also have a question for the people out there....Has anyone tried Cowboy Bebop? If you know a way to get it synced, please tell me. Thanks and Thanks in advanced.


Qshartle

[SingSing]

I though I saw somewhere that you can add a syn delay value in TMPenc
option. DVD2avi do post a syn delay value.

[qshartle]

This would be the Mac forum.

[bilestyle]

qshartle-- i will commend you on your efforts.. BUT i have to point out that your entire tutorial is based on some misconceptions. With the a/v sync the audio is NOT the problem it is the video. If you add scaled the audio just b/c the audio and video becomes the same length does NOT mean they are in sync, i believe that is why you will still be finding issues with syncing. The length the audio comes out of the extraction is the length the audio should remain at. The only time the audio should be messed with (if you are truely trying to get them in sync without any of that decoding to qt/ qt mutator stuff) is if it starts earlier or later than the video (i've heard of this, but still have yet to experience) i remeber you posting something before about audio having a frame rate... audio doesn't have a framerate that only applies to video.

[tgpo]

You never want to use add scaled on audio. It will alter the pitch and rate of the audio causing it to sound like total crap! Instead you need to alter and manipulate the video to match the audio. You can safely alter video with out fear of changing the way the video is watched.

[qshartle]

Bilestile, I will update my site soon. I have found another way, which you do not have to add scaled. You can if you want but it doesn't require it.

[bilestyle]

its cool that u found another process that works for u, but im already well suited with a process that is simple, fast and has yet to fail me i just was lookin at your guide to see another process that is supposed to fix sync issues.

[qshartle]

Ive found on Most Anime you have to ADD SCALED. Its cool since it doesn't distort the audio(????). I just did Akira and Mononoke Hime and they worked perfectly. Ill have the thing posted soon. I have a heck of alot of HW.


Qshartle

[bilestyle]

Hi,

first of all, I want to say "Thank you!" in the name of everyone who is new to this. Now I have some questions. Why do you convert the sound-file seperately? I don't do that. I only use ffmpeg to convert the sound file and to mux it with the video-stream: no problems and fast, fast, fast.

I also have good experiences with OSEx if i don't rip video- and sound-file apart. I only put the complete vob into ffmpeg.

I neither use quicktime, mediapipe or any others of the programms you named. Only: OSEx and ffmpeg. My experience is good with it.

well you are either in one of two categories then... 1) you live in a region where PAL is the format of choice... 2) you havent ripped many dvds then... especially anything animated. ffmpegx will do a good/fast job of converting videos in PAL and sometimes in NTSC in full sync.. but on a general level, more often then not the video needs to be tweaked to get it in sync with the audio... messing with the audio can be MUCH more detrimental to the end product then anything else.

[Doc Boese]

Both categories are on the point.

[bilestyle]

Well you are lucky then, the PAL format is not riddled with all the goddamn problems NTSC is... NTSC (till recently) has been the biggest pain in the ass.

on the note about anime i ran Ninja Scroll through my afropic program last night and (left it on at night, woke up to the end product in the morning) when i woke up i had my 2 SVCD mpeg-2 files both perfectly synced and excellent quality...took 8 hours from start to finish - my point being is that even anime can be synced properly through my program (or just the use of movtoy4m and mpeg2enc with some denoising and scaling binaries) it has yet to fail me for syncing even the most difficult of video.

unfortunately on the note of VCD quality (which i dont think is bad as a few have said) im stuck with whatever i can get w/ the mjpeg binaries.. i cant pipe movtoy4m into ffmpeg to get its mpeg encoder instead of mpeg2enc for vcd/mpeg-1 encoding...oh well i personally dont really encode many vcd anyways, svcd is much nicer

[qshartle]

yes, but stil so-so quality(1 and 1 set)

[SCB]

Hey Bile, is developer tools required to encode the audio in afropic? When I first tried it out it encoded the video (vob with .mov extension) but gave me an error saying I needed Dev tools.

[bilestyle]

you dont want to append the .mov extension w/ my program.. that was only if you wanted to do this process in ffmpegx previous to my program being out..you do need the developer tools installed to get the audio to encode because on first run mediapipe compiles mp2enc when encoding ac3-> mp2... so the lack of dev tools would be your problem.

qshart-

the quality can be the exact same as it can be in ffmpegx... we use the EXACT SAME binaries.. im not certain how many time im going to have to say this b4 it sinks in..... yes MAYBE u get better vcd quality out of ffmpeg.. i dont know and i wont be able to do anything about it because i cant pipe from movtoy4m to ffmpeg-- and why would u want vcd from a dvd anyways? thats pretty dumb if u ask me, u will lose a ridiculous amount of quality regardless....the quality difference between the two can only be marginal... and if you dont select MPEG1 as the video codec (as opposed to MPEG1 VCD)in ffmpegx then the process is the EXACT same.... so if you are choosing MPEG1 VCD as your video codec in ffmpegx when you are encoding and saying THAT quality is better than you really dont have an idea what your talkin about cuz we run the video through the SAME programs.

[qshartle]

I use MPEG1 not VCD and its in 0.0.4d