Can't get ac3 file from DVD Decrypter or DVD2AVI

[rhuala2]

Hi,

Scratching my head here, I an using DVD Decrypter to rip a DVD rip into .ifo and .vob files, then DVD2AVI using all the 'DEMUX' setting I can't seem to get an .ac3 file? The other wierd thing is that if I rip using DVD Decrypter by,

Clicking on the "Stream Processing"
"Enable stream processing"
Selecting "DEMUX"
Then selectingr Video File AC3 file (6ch one) and Subtitle stream.

It only spits out an .m2v, .ifo, .vob files, still no ac3 file??

Any ideas would be greatly appreciated, thanks.

rhuala

[johneboy]

It only spits out an .m2v, .ifo, .vob files, still no ac3 file??

Did ya try de-mux with MPEG tools in TMPGenc ?

I just did my first DVD rip last night, and found that when using DVD decrypter, it wouldnt pull the AC3 files out of any 3 of the 4 vobs

went to de-mux tool in TMPGenc, and the first VOB that DVD Decypter would pull the AC3 file from.. it was listed as audio stream in TMPGenc demux.. however the other 3 when run thru TMPGenc demux.. were not labled as audio streams, yet i extracted them anyway.. and it worked

hope that makes sense

[rhuala2]

ok so in TMPGEnc u used 'Simpe Demux' or De-multiplex' then your input file was each and every .VOB file. And your output file was ac3? Could u maybe elaborate a tad more... does that give u multiple ac3 files? Do u merge them or did u use them in Maestro?

rhuala

[johneboy]

ok so in TMPGEnc u used 'Simpe Demux' or De-multiplex' then your input file was each and every .VOB file. And your output file was ac3? Could u maybe elaborate a tad more... does that give u multiple ac3 files? Do u merge them or did u use them in Maestro?

rhuala

because im new to the DVD->xVCD thing and tend to try to figure out things my own way.. this is how i did the conversion...

1. used dvd decrypter to rip VOBs
2. tried to use it to demux vobs to m2v and ac3
it would only pull ac3 file out of the first vob

3. opened VOBs in TMPGenc demux (not simple one)
4. The first VOB that DVD decrypter was able to get the AC3 file from.. showed up in the DEMUX window.. showed the video stream.. with info..
and the 2 audio streams.. (eng and french)

5. Opened the remaining 3 VOBs, however their audio streams were not labeled. So i just extracted the stream (x80 or something i think ?)

6. after doing this.. i had 4 m2v files, 4 vobs, 4 ac3 files
7. dropped ac3 files into goldwave.. and made them into one big wav file..
8. used the merge/cut tool in TMPGenc to merge the 4 m2v files into one
9. droped the new large M2V file into TMPGenc as video, the large wav file as audio
10. converted.

[johneboy]

because im new to the DVD->xVCD thing and tend to try to figure out things my own way.. this is how i did the conversion...

BTW.. if anyone can explain a quicker way.. that'd be nice..
i know there is guides... some say use DVD2AVI
DVD2AVI no work on my 2k box.. crashes on load..
didnt get a change to check dr watsons dump file.. perhaps i will later..
my process works.. just very time consuming..
not that time is really an issue on my ancient (surpised its not made of wood) computer....

[rhuala2]

Hey that's pretty cool it's working quite good, could u expand on 2 small points please...

1. How'd u merge ac3 files in goldwave (just d/l'd and it, wasn't obvious and nothing in help about merging files)
2. How'd u merge 4 m2v files in TMPGEnc

If I can get these then I think I'm set. Did u have any syncing problems in the end... Thanks a lot appreciate it!

rhuala

[johneboy]

1. How'd u merge ac3 files in goldwave (just d/l'd and it, wasn't obvious and nothing in help about merging files)

well.. first you need to make sure you have the proper codecs installed for ac3 files.. if you can play ac3 with media player.. your set.. if not, install the audio codec from the nimo codec pack.

drop all the ac3 files into the main window in goldwave

it may take a bit to "deflash" them

then you will have lets say 4 windows

vts_blah_1.ac3
vts_blah_2.ac3
vts_blah_3.ac3
vts_blah_4.ac3

click to view the vts_blah_2.ac3 file
hit copy at the top
go to the vts_blah_1.ac3 window.. and hit paste... this should paste it at the end so now vts_blah_1.ac3 and vts_blah_2.ac3 = vts_blah_1.ac3
then do the same for vts_blah_3.ac3.. copy it, and paste it on vts_blah_1.ac3

do this for all of them.. till you have them all pasted into the vts_blah_1.ac3 window

then go file...save...

hrmm thats seems complicated... if you dont understand... lemme know.. i will try to clarify parts in greater detail

2. How'd u merge 4 m2v files in TMPGEnc

on the cut/merge tab in TMPGenc.. add all 4 m2v files in order.. select mpeg 2 at the top
and at the bottom, specify location to save, and file name
and hit run

Did u have any syncing problems in the end

not that i noticed

[wulf109]

Rip the DVD as one large file,then you have one vob containing all the voc's merged into one. I then encode that one large vob in Tmpeg without frameserving.

[johneboy]

Rip the DVD as one large file,then you have one vob containing all the voc's merged into one.

what should i use to rip the 4 VOBs into one vob?

[wulf109]

Smartripper and DVD Decrypter both have an option to rip as one large file. Just look in settings in Smartripper or options in DVD Decrypter. If the files are already on your HD and you don't have the disk you could use DV Tool to merge them into one file. There's also a program called VOB Merger that can do it but I prefer DV Tool.

[johneboy]

Smartripper and DVD Decrypter both have an option to rip as one large file. Just look in settings in Smartripper or options in DVD Decrypter. If the files are already on your HD and you don't have the disk you could use DV Tool to merge them into one file. There's also a program called VOB Merger that can do it but I prefer DV Tool.

thanks for the info wulf109... much appreciated

[rhuala2]

on the cut/merge tab in TMPGenc.. add all 4 m2v files in order.. select mpeg 2 at the top and at the bottom, specify location to save, and file name and hit run

hmmm, this was the first thing I tried and got the error "File balh balh ... is not MPEG file", errors out and won't finish any other way of merging .m2v files? When using the guides on the left they all say Decrypter will output a .m2v file, I've checked all settings and I still must be using it wrong cause I get 4 m2v files every time. I have file splitting turned off, and merge files selected everywhere I can see.

So you started with .m2v files and merged to one big mpeg, or did it merge into a .m2v file? Curious, I usually use Maestro with a large mv2 and ac3 file what are u using for ur final merge/chaptering?

rhuala

[johneboy]

So you started with .m2v files and merged to one big mpeg, or did it merge into a .m2v file?

i started with 4 .m2v's, and merged them into one..

Curious, I usually use Maestro with a large mv2 and ac3 file what are u using for ur final merge/chaptering?

i take my large m2v and wav file to TMPGenc.. i didnt do any merge/chaptering.. last night was my first time rippin a DVD... so maybe in the future i will...

[esmerelda1983]

im no expert but that way was damn confuseing.......

i use smartripper. perhaps this way is better

1)open smartripper
2)goto movie
3)choose the right movie, usualy the 1 with the longest running time
4)choose the tab that says stream processing
5)click in the ac3 stream. sumthing like audio english ac3(6ch)48khz
6)on the right, click "demux to extra file"
7)choose the directory to rip to
8)rip away

there will be an ac3 file and a few vobs in your directory

after it is done open up dvd2avi. i assume u know how to use it but, select your vobs, no audio, then save project.
you will get a ***.D2V file which you can open up in TMPGEnc, then just encode however you please


if you got problems with dvd2avi perhaps wulf109 can explain how to rip to 1 big vob

i hope that way helps

[johneboy]

after it is done open up dvd2avi. i assume u know how to use it but, select your vobs, no audio, then save project.
you will get a ***.D2V file which you can open up in TMPGEnc, then just encode however you please


if you got problems with dvd2avi perhaps wulf109 can explain how to rip to 1 big vob

yes... my way is confusing
however.. DVD2AVI doesnt work at all... i get doctor watson dumps when it opens

i will stick with wulf109's suggestion of using DV Tools to make the VOBs into one big one.

[rhuala2]

im no expert but that way was damn confuseing.......

i use smartripper. perhaps this way is better

Usually I can rip DVD's fine my problem this time is that I can't get the #$%# .ac3 file from the ripping. I just tried Smartripper, and I got the m2v file but again no .ac3 file came out. Also the m2v file from Smart Ripper won't work with Maestro for some reason (says its got wrong frame rate?).

I think I have the work around now, to save to one large .VOB file then extract the .ac3 file using TMPGEnc. If the rippers would just give me my .ac3 file I would be fine. ADVD2AVI, gives me the .d2v file but again no .ac3 file. The movie I'm trying to back up is Titan AE...

I basically try to combine about 4 different DVD backup guides, 3 from the Left 'How to DVD TIP' section and another I found thru goggle. When things don't go the way they suggest it turn into an ugly mess sometimes.

rhuala

ps. johneboy, I dont' know how u got TMPGEnc to merge ur files into one large .m2v file but thanks for the suggestion. TMPGEnc only lets me save as a MPEG and it won't combine .m2v files giving an error "Not valid mpeg files" ... but thanks anyways

[johneboy]

i hope that way helps

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[esmerelda1983]

well bugger that

my way works fine for me every time, then i use hypercube transcoder to convert the ac3 file into MPEG multichanel(see another topic around here somewhere)

i have never got a m2v file from smartripper!?!? i only get vobs and ac3's

i wish i could help more


it small typo johneboy

[rhuala2]

AH yes I understand your way esmerelda1983, but what if the file size of the total movie is less than 4.7 GB. Try this go into DVD Decrypter,

put it into IFO Mode.
DVD Decrypter will then automatically highlight the biggest file on the DVD, 99% of the time this is the main movie.
Look at the bottom right of the DVD Decrypter program window.
It will list the program file size (and length). If its under 4,700,000 then it can fit onto 1 DVD-R without ever going through TMPGEnc

When you re-encode with TMPGEnc you are loosing quality unneccessarily. Now if the movie is a 3 hr movie then u have to run it thru TMPGEnc to re-encode and compress it down to fit one DVD-R. The movie I mentioned is Titan AE (94min) so I am trying to stay away from re-encoding it so that I have a perfect copy...

If you have a greater interest I can post exact steps and how to over come the problem I was having where it wasn't (still isn't) extracting the .ac3 files.

rhuala

[esmerelda1983]

i dont have dvd burner

i re-encode to svcd

your original question was how to get the ac3 file....so thats how i do it at the same time as ripping

sorry i could not be of more use to you

[rhuala2]

sorry i could not be of more use to you

Hey man, every suggestion is helpful, even if it helps to solidfy a currrent belief which leads to confidence it what ones doing. Hey I went and grabbed ripper afer your post and gave that a try, looks promising, although Maestro didn't like the m2v file it created. But I'm sure it's something I did wrong. Thanks again

rhuala

[esmerelda1983]

point taken

maybe when i get a dvd burner and learn a little more about authoring i will understand why u want the m2v file and not the vobs??

anyway i wish u luck.....well at least this post puts your topic back on the top

[thinker]

esmeralda,

I did most of what you did using the smartripper and getting both m2v and ac3 by selecting demux as another file.

However, I'm not successful with dvd2avi, can you help me with a step by step?

I noticed also that when I used smartripper I also get a d2v file but I was not successful in importing to TmpGenc I get a file not supported. I guess I miss out the dvd2avi part.


Anyway Thanks in advance for any help

[thinker]

rhuala

just in case you still need the ac3 with m2v , the ifoedit guide in
http://www.dvd2dvdr.com/IfoEdit.htm
would help if you use SmartRipper. I got one large 5 GB m2v and the accompanying ac3. Just follow the smartripper setting in the guide

Hope that helps

[rhuala2]

Thanks Thinker, I got it working awhile back, forgot about this thread. I was unchecking everything and then selecting DEMUX once, without realizing I had to check DEMUX for every SELECTED item...doh!

rhuala