ATI MMC 7.1 capturing question

[dcapp1]

Hi everyone, I recently captured Halloween II with ATI MMC 7.1 software using the settings given in the guide "capturing to vcd using ATI all in wonder". It produced a vcd compliant video that is 918 MB in size. My question is what settings can I use to produce a smaller size to put on an 800 MB cd-r?

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[MOVIEGEEK]

Use TMPGEnc(located in Tools)to make an XVCD.I would recommend
lowering the audio bitrate in TMPGEnc to 124-160kbps.Stinky's regtool(also in Tools)is very useful.

[dcapp1]

If I reencode in TMPGenc, will I lose any quality? Also, would you extract the audio with Vdub and run the audio as a different file?

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[hoola_loop]

hi there. i use 7.1 to capture all the time. if your capping to vcd compliant on the fly i would not reccomend re-encoding to get a smaller size. yes you will loose quality if you reencode. seeing how vcd compliant isnt really that good of quality to begin with. if you like capping to mpeg i may recommend a higher bitrate capture/xvcd. <-- if your dvd player will palyem. anything over an hour long i put on 2 cdrs= better quality.

ps. i only cap to vcd compliant when archiving cartoons or stuff i dont plan on archiving at all. if i plan to keep the captured video i cap to avi and encode to xvcd. more work but if your gonna wind up re-encoding anyway. why not? look in the tools section for some kick arse templets that will allow your movie to be crunched down to one disk. cheers

[dcapp1]

Hoola_Loop, when you capture at a higher bitrate, do you cut the end file to fit on two cds or do you reencode to two different files.

[DRfrankenpimp]

you can use stinky's reg tweaker and edit your captures to 1150000 bit rate,capture p frames set to 4 b frames set to 2 set slider for motion estimation as high as your system casn hadle...try it and see if your vcd compliant captures are a little better quality...mine are

[hoola_loop]

yes if i cap to a higher bitrate mpeg i cut the file to fit. you can do as suggested above to get better quality compliant vcd.

i myself never really liked the quality of a compliant vcd. but if that is all your standalone will play then go for it. i think in the near future all standalone players will support all formats so i say......go for svcd until dvd-r/rw drives are cheap.

[dcapp1]

When I try and create a new avi capture, how do I configure the PicVideo codec because the configure button is blacked out. I want to capture to a smaller file than the one provided if I choose AVI capture under digital vcr tab.

Thanks

[hoola_loop]

it is greyed out on mine as well. i think the reg tool in tools section may help. if your gonna cap to avi use vdub or my favorite aviio. aviios' only drawback is captures in 4 gig segments.
what i do is bump the files size down to 3000 so each segment is aroun 31 minutes long and combine 2 to get an hour on each cdr. kinda give and take. if you have an 80 minutes movie you can leave the size at 4096 and get 39 to 42 minutes in each segment therefor 40minutes pre cdr.
i have friends that swear by vdub but i get better quality with aviio.

[dcapp1]

Hoola_Loop, When you capture to avi with the ATI 7.1 software what settings do you use because when I use the AVI capture setting it produces a 243 MB video per 3 minutes. Thanks.


P.S To anybody else; Someone should write a guide on capturing good quality video wit the ATI MMC software.

[hoola_loop]

as i stated before i use mmc to cap to mpeg. if im capping to avi i use avi_io and use the huffy codec.

as far as the size being 240mb per 3 minutes that will all depend on your settings. with huffy capping at best quality and 320/240 im getting 300+ mb per 3 minute intervals. a tipical 1 and a half hour movie will suck up about 10+gigs