Best macrovision eliminator box??

[masterpp]

What are the best macrovision eliminator box for recording copyright VHS and DVD? I only found Sima Copymaster and Sima SCC. I think SCC is better than Copymaster.

is there any other product that eliminate the macrovision? name those. I would like to search more info about other products.

[wulf109]

Go with the Sima SCC,it regenerates the interval bar between video frames. there is no copy guard system that can get around that. It's sold as video enhancer/prosessor,it's ability to elimnate macrovision is the result of it's regenerating the interval bar. I believe that new federal legistration makes all dedicated macrovision devices illegal,so don't wait.

[vhelp]

masterpp,

In short, TBC-100 (+/- $250)

Later dude.
-vhelp

[SergeantD]

My Sima SCC cannot remove the signal that my DMR-E20 DVD recorder still detects. I think it is good for VHS copies but not for DVD to DVD recorder.

[masterpp]

cool i'll buy sima SCC, i hope it will give best quality on the VHS. I'm not doing any illegal cuz some of my DVD has lot of skipping with scatch marked on them. i get pissed of it. that why i wanna make the backup copy before someone mess around with the dvd discs. screw the law. hahah

[Dragonfly2337]

I have had really good luck with this.
Check it out. http://www.svideotorca.com/svideovcr1.html
Works great when you are on the road and want to watch a DVD in a Hotel room and also works great going from DVD to VHS and VHS to VHS.

Cheers,

dragonfly2337

[masterpp]

i did some search on SCC, found out that it won't work with all SONY vcr and dvd. is that true? ahh that sux i have sony.

dragonfly, can that adapter get rid of Level 2(color strip) of DVD too? http://www.videoguys.com/sima.htm

[Dragonfly2337]

masterpp

Glad you mentioned that. It gets rid of the lines when the VCR is in EP or LP mode when trying to copy a DVD, in SP mode you get those awful lines.
VHS tapes no problem with any recording speed. I thought my first conditioner was bad but after fussing with it I had always recorded on either LP or EP to get more movies on a VHS tape. Then I changed my home theater setup and went to SP on the VCR and that is where my troubles began. I had also bought myself a Sony VCR but returned it the next day because none of my tapes from my other VCR's that I recorded on would play and also the dang thing only has EP and SP no LP which I had recorded most of the movie on. I don't know what kind of marketing thing Sony is doing but they lost me. I bought another Panasonic and after it gets broken in works great. Some how the heads on the new Panasonic's are to new and can cause trouble. Anyway I hope that I answered your question.

Cheers,

dragonfly2337

[twinegar]

My Sima SCC works great for enhancing the signal during VCR to DVD-R recording but it doesn't remove Macrovision encoding here. I had to get the "Little Black Box" to do that.

[masterpp]

i found another one, tvtool can remove macrovision with nvidia card to VCR

[wulf109]

i've copied hundred's of DVD's with the Sima SCC it has never failed to remove the macrovision,both type 1 and type 2. It is probably the only devcice available that will remove type 2 macro.
It does have a bypass switch if turned off turns off the macro eliminator. I don't have a standalone DVD recorder so I can't comment on that except to say I've other posts that suggest standalone DVD recorders are difficult to eliminate macro on. They may reimpose the macro as thay record? Hollywood is greedy and they maybe imposing this manufacturers of DVD record decks.

[Anonymous65]

You do not need a TBC to remove the Macrovision signal. A simple $30 device can generate a blanking pulse that is turned on by the vertical sync pulse in the video, blocking the Macrovision signal which is inserted during the vertical blanking interval.

All VCR's and some TV sets use AGC (Automatic Gain Control) for setting the correct video levels. The AGC cicuit samples the vertical interval level, and sets the video gain to the correct value. What Macrovision does is to insert a pulsating white level signal during the vertical blaning, totally messing up the AGC in the recording VCR or TV set. It basically makes the AGC turn down the video gain until the video almost is gone, so the video looks very dark, and the video sync seperator in the VCR or TV loose the sync lock and can make the picture totally go away. A very simple, yet rude way of copy protection. Any VCR that has a manual AGC control will not be affected by the Macrovison signal, just like most TV sets.

[Dragonfly2337]

Here's one for you ATI card users:
ATI Macrovision remover - removes macrovision from the TV input of your ATI card http://www.doom9.org/Soft21/SupportUtils/DisableATIMacrovisionDetection.zip

Cheers,

Dragonfly2337

[verchad]

I have a panasonic dmr-hs2 and would like to back up some of my vhs movies (star wars trilogy letterbox and the special editions, and a few others) that it says it cannot record. Does anybody know of something that works to eliminate the copy protection signal that the dmr is picking up. Non copy protected vhs backups I've made look great with this unit. Thanks for any help.

[kwag]

I have a panasonic dmr-hs2 and would like to back up some of my vhs movies (star wars trilogy letterbox and the special editions, and a few others) that it says it cannot record. Does anybody know of something that works to eliminate the copy protection signal that the dmr is picking up. Non copy protected vhs backups I've made look great with this unit. Thanks for any help.

Hi verchad,

I have the Panasonic DMR-E20, and I bought this: http://www.dvnation.com/dve.html
Works perfect. I can feed a VHS or DVD with every known protection scheme, and it comes out completely clean

-kwag

[vhelp]

Again, I have yet to have ANY issues when using my TBC-100 - -
(when I do use it)

This is a PCI type card, but does not have ANY electronics associated w/
the PCI slot. It's just a convenience to have inside your PC. Don't know
why they thought that. But, it does connect to your PC's power supply
via it's Donkey connect (I think it's what they call it) But the unit does not
use any PCI or IRQ or whatever else you may be thinking of - - only the
5 volt power supply.

The real test is when you feed something into a DV cam. These cams
will definately shut off the DV cam or stop the recording part (if MV aware)
But, when I feed the VHS source into the TBC-100, and then out to the
capture device (whatever you may have, even your dvr) all will be fine.

However, I did pay $230 for mine.
-vhelp

[ejai]

I own the Sima SCC and a TBC-1000.

I record using the Panasonic DMR-E30, I've found that the Sima doesnot block the macrovision when using certain devices such as the DMR-E30.

Yet the TBC-1000 works fine with any device, yes it cost more but it works great.