Virtualdub failed to resize?

[V2002]

Hello,
Im trying to convert Star Wars II with virtualdub as frameserver to CCE.
I resized it to 720x480 (letterbox)) as I did with other movies ..

But this time I always got 720x540 as result !!!???? what's wrong? does it have any thing to do with xvid codec?

Thanks

[bugster]

But this time I always got 720x540 as result !!!???? what's wrong? does it have any thing to do with xvid codec?

Nope, I did exactly the same thing with no probs, it must have been the way you set up the vdub resize filter. Remember to set the actual movie dimensions in the upper part of the dialog and then the total size in the lower 'letterboxing' part of the dialog and click preview before accepting the settings.

[V2002]

Thanks for replying.

As I have mentioned ..I did not have any problems with other movies!
The original res. was: 640x272 I resized it to 720x306 (correct aspect ratio) and then 'expand frame and letterbox image' to 720x480 ... well as i did with many other movies! I got 720x540 it's pretty weird!!! I did not changed any thing in CCE!

Cheers

[V2002]

and as im reading the forum, im testing the film 'rat race' that has the same res. as star wars II. The result IS correct (720x480)!

Cheers

[DJRumpy]

LOL. I actaully made this mistake. I should be ashamed of myself. :P

The movie your trying to convert is PAL. CCE detects the framerate. If you have 'DVD Compliant' check, CCE happily attempts to resize the video to comply with standards for the type of movie it's encoding (pal or ntsc).

I would suggest you either leave the DVD compliant unchecked, or simply slow the movie back down to it's original 23.976 via AVISynth, and the AssumeFPS command

AssumeFPS(23.976, False)

Take your audio, and slow it down with the BeSweet GUI (Pal to NTSC Film), and your done. I just finished both Empire, and Jedi Laserdisc rips. They are both in PAL format.

On a side note, the correct aspect ratio for a 2.35 movie without letterboxing is around 720x360 ( + or - 16 ). The movie should appear a little 'Tall'. Your DVD player stretches the horizontal on playback to get the correct 2.35:1 aspect ratio.

In case anyone cares, the script I used looked something like this:

AVISource("F:\Downloads\Empire.AVI")
ConvertToYUY2()
AssumeFPS(23.976,False)
Sharpen(.3)
BilinearResize(720,360)
AddBorders(0,60,0,60)

The Sharpen was needed. Both of these uploads were a bit on the blurry side. After you fix the audio with BeSweet to avoid the manly voices, it looks and sounds great.

[V2002]

Hi,

Well, Windows (Win2k) reports that it's 23,97fps/5ch audio (as it is right with other movies). Is it really PAL?

I use Virtualdub as framevserver (with resize+subtitle filters), so i can't
understand what u described above!

I dont use 'DVD compliant' option in CCE (i've never used it) but CCE (v2.66 maybe earlier as well)will only resize to DVD res. only if the 'incoming' video has 29,97 or 25 fps otherwise it won't do it!

Cheers and have a nice day

[wildcatfan]

Actually I think your video is fine... BUT when you play the mpeg2 back the playback filter is resizing it to get the correct aspect ratio.....720/540 = 4/3. I have powerdvd installed and use its filters to playback mpeg2 with wmp and it does that.

[V2002]

Thanks for your answer. I'll try that ... but still ... it doesn't make sense!!
why only this clipp ?? others are just fine (720x480)!

Cheers

[DJRumpy]

wildcat, you've got to be kidding. Uugh..sometimes I like powerdvd, sometimes I hate it. I don't think Widows Media player will do this though. It tends to ignore DAR flags altogether (SVCD is a good example of this).

v2002, if your source says it's 23.976, then it most definately is NOT pal. It's a different rip than mine was. Find MpegProperties. It will tell you the actual size of your final MPEG along with bitrate, framerate, etc, or you can pull the information with TMPGenc ( FILE | MPEG TOOLS...add it to the Adv DEMULTIPLEX Tab ).

[V2002]

I found the "bug" ... it is the "#¤%& subtitle plugin ... it "resizes" the clip
to have space for subtitle

Thanks for *every one* for trying to help me!

Have a nice day

[wildcatfan]

wildcat, you've got to be kidding. Uugh..sometimes I like powerdvd, sometimes I hate it. I don't think Widows Media player will do this though. It tends to ignore DAR flags altogether (SVCD is a good example of this).

v2002, if your source says it's 23.976, then it most definately is NOT pal. It's a different rip than mine was. Find MpegProperties. It will tell you the actual size of your final MPEG along with bitrate, framerate, etc, or you can pull the information with TMPGenc ( FILE | MPEG TOOLS...add it to the Adv DEMULTIPLEX Tab ).

nope not kidding, one thing though is I am using wmp 6.4 so I am not sure about later ones. For mpeg1 it does seem to ignore the dar. For mpeg2 (using the powerdvd filters) it uses the dar.

[DJRumpy]

That is strange. With WinDVD, it ignores them altogether.