More Cinema Craft Encoder help needed......

[explorer]

I'm trying to rip Leon, The Professional. So far, using DVD2AVI, I've saved the VOB files as one AVI. Using CCE (v2.64.01.02) I've converted the AVI to MPV, at 4500 kbps. I try to load that into Maestro, and it tells me it's an invalid frame rate. I go back to CCE, try it as an M2V, at 4500 kbps, and the same result, invalid frame rate. The stripped VOB files themselves are 5.4 Gig, and the AVI is just short of 800 MB, so my goal is to squeeze them down to fit on one 4.7 Gig DVD-R using CCE (ReMPG quality is terrible). What am I doing wrong????

[pijetro]

Ummmm, I think you're getting bitrate and framrate confused. I'm not familiar with DVD2AVI, but some authoring programs only accept standard framerates (ie 25,29.97fps). You might have to run your .mpv file through pulldown.exe. You should be able to find it in your tools section on the left. Basically it grabs your 23.976fps .mpv file, and puts flags on the video for your DVD player to play it as a 29.97fps movie.

Good luck!!!!!

[Faceman101]

why would you convert to AVI? Why not keep it as MPG2 and downsize it like we all do.

Read up on some guides to give your encodes better results.

[explorer]

Thanks for the replies....

As far as converting to AVI, I've made the assumption I need to that first when I'm dealing with a file that's too large to fit on one DVD-R, which is the case I'm dealing with. Once it's converted, this particular movie is less than 1 Gig. Using CCE, I'm supposed to be able to re-convert it, without losing any quality, and control the bitrate, thus controlling the size of the movie. I don't think I'm confusing bitrate with frame rate, as the only option I see to really control in CCE in bitrate........

[Adder_78]

I'm trying to rip Leon, The Professional. So far, using DVD2AVI, I've saved the VOB files as one AVI. Using CCE (v2.64.01.02) I've converted the AVI to MPV, at 4500 kbps. I try to load that into Maestro, and it tells me it's an invalid frame rate. I go back to CCE, try it as an M2V, at 4500 kbps, and the same result, invalid frame rate. The stripped VOB files themselves are 5.4 Gig, and the AVI is just short of 800 MB, so my goal is to squeeze them down to fit on one 4.7 Gig DVD-R using CCE (ReMPG quality is terrible). What am I doing wrong????

No no no no no no don't convert it to avi!!!!!! make project-file instead!!!!!!

then make this(change locations and names ) with notepad:

LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\MPEG2Dec\mpeg2dec .dll")
mpeg2source("C:\u-571_rip\u571.d2v")
ResampleAudio(44100)

and save it something.avs

then you can open it in CCE and you have 100% quality!

And Then use Robshot method... read the Doom9's guide "Getting the best out of CCE"... (you can use www.vcdhelp.com/calc to calculate the right bitrate)

Zzzzzzzz

[banjazzer]

Well, I think the easiest way would be to use DVD2AVI to create a project file (and wav). This project file (.d2v) can be loaded into TMPG with the relevant DVD template selected, and subsequently saved as a project file. Convert the project file with VFAPV Converter, and load the pseudo-avi into CCE.

[Adder_78]

Well, I think the easiest way would be to use DVD2AVI to create a project file (and wav). This project file (.d2v) can be loaded into TMPG with the relevant DVD template selected, and subsequently saved as a project file. Convert the project file with VFAPV Converter, and load the pseudo-avi into CCE.

Why? Is it really so hard to use *.avs files with CCE? And why *.Wav?

Zzzzzzzz

[banjazzer]

Why? Is it really so hard to use *.avs files with CCE? And why *.Wav?

I never said it was hard to use an avs file - I often use them myself. I was pointing out what I consider is an easier way. A better way still would be to get Gordian Knot to create the avs file. However, unless you already use GK this adds another level of complication.

Also, some people who use CCE much more than I do seem to think it best not to let CCE handle the audio - hence using the wav separately.

Incidentally, where does your method take care of distinguising between PAL and NTSC SVCD resolution?

[Adder_78]

Why? Is it really so hard to use *.avs files with CCE? And why *.Wav?

I never said it was hard to use an avs file - I often use them myself. I was pointing out what I consider is an easier way. A better way still would be to get Gordian Knot to create the avs file. However, unless you already use GK this adds another level of complication.

Also, some people who use CCE much more than I do seem to think it best not to let CCE handle the audio - hence using the wav separately.

Incidentally, where does your method take care of distinguising between PAL and NTSC SVCD resolution?

well this is DVD -> DVD-R method... (this is DVD Ripping to DVDR forum?) so thats why I dont see any point to use wav audio... the audio part should be disabled in CCE... BUT it has to be in the *.avs file or the CCE will/could crash... it's just a trick...

only 3 lines in avs-file and thats it...

[explorer]

Hey people, I really didn't mean to start anything!?! I'm just trying to compress this file using the best quality (aren't we all). I've been busy reading, printing instructions, and re-reading all the different articles on ripping. Is there a way to compress the VOB files first, then convert?

[Adder_78]

Hey people, I really didn't mean to start anything!?! I'm just trying to compress this file using the best quality (aren't we all). I've been busy reading, printing instructions, and re-reading all the different articles on ripping. Is there a way to compress the VOB files first, then convert?

read the doom9's guide "Getting the best out of CCE"... that's it...

Zzzzzzzzzzzz

[Faceman101]

why would you convert to AVI? Why not keep it as MPG2 and downsize it like we all do.

Read up on some guides to give your encodes better results.

How many posts did it take to come back to mine?

@explorer

If you have been reading guides you would see that frameserving (making a fake AVI, basically making your VOBs hidden within an AVI [AVS is a psuedo AVI]) your VOBs and downsizing takes only one step. You are decreasing quality by two-fold when you compress your VOBs into a Divx AVI, then compress again into MPEG2. VOB = MPG2. Having one step will decrease time spent encoding and keep quality high.

Trust us, read the guides and try them out.

[banjazzer]

this is DVD Ripping to DVDR forum?

Well, yes, I had forgotten which forum I was in!

Hey people, I really didn't mean to start anything!?!

hehe. Don't worry. The "boys" are on the way round right now as I write this. 8)

[igornt]

I'm trying to rip Leon, The Professional. So far, using DVD2AVI, I've saved the VOB files as one AVI. Using CCE (v2.64.01.02) I've converted the AVI to MPV, at 4500 kbps. I try to load that into Maestro, and it tells me it's an invalid frame rate. I go back to CCE, try it as an M2V, at 4500 kbps, and the same result, invalid frame rate. The stripped VOB files themselves are 5.4 Gig, and the AVI is just short of 800 MB, so my goal is to squeeze them down to fit on one 4.7 Gig DVD-R using CCE (ReMPG quality is terrible). What am I doing wrong????

No no no no no no don't convert it to avi!!!!!! make project-file instead!!!!!!

then make this(change locations and names ) with notepad:

LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\MPEG2Dec\mpeg2dec .dll")
mpeg2source("C:\u-571_rip\u571.d2v")
ResampleAudio(44100)

and save it something.avs

then you can open it in CCE and you have 100% quality!

And Then use Robshot method... read the Doom9's guide "Getting the best out of CCE"... (you can use www.vcdhelp.com/calc to calculate the right bitrate)

Zzzzzzzz

I noticed that Explorer uses CCE 2.64, i.e. he will not be able to open an avs file directly from CCE. You should either upgrade CCE to 2.66 or downgrade it to CCE 2.5.

[medievil]

Well, I think the easiest way would be to use DVD2AVI to create a project file (and wav). This project file (.d2v) can be loaded into TMPG with the relevant DVD template selected, and subsequently saved as a project file. Convert the project file with VFAPV Converter, and load the pseudo-avi into CCE.

no, no, No..Don't make a wav. Demux the Ac3 stream!! you can then use Spruceup to reauthor with the original ac3. it' also lets you use a higher average boit rate for video cause the ac3 file will only be 300-500mb per 2hour movie.

[banjazzer]

I noticed that Explorer uses CCE 2.64, i.e. he will not be able to open an avs file directly from CCE. You should either upgrade CCE to 2.66 or downgrade it to CCE 2.5.

I am using 2.64 and I can open .avs files with no problem!

[dmonty]

2.64 works with .avs files. Version 2.62 does not.

[igornt]

Hm, yeah, I got things confused. Never mind, forget about it.