Best way to fit 2 hours on DVD

[daznic]

I`m encoding a captured avi for DVDR, I must fit 2 hours on the DVD so what are the best settings to use - I`m using Premiere with the CCE plugin which works fine, but to fit the 2 hours on with the best quality do i use VBR or CBR & what bitrates do i use ? ( I cant seem to get a bitrate calculator to work )

I`m still experimenting with encoding the audio in a seperate program as i`ve heard cce isn`t the best for audio, any suggestions here also ? - do i really need to multiplex after encoding or can i do that at the authouring stage ?

Thanks a lot.

[bugster]

Te get two hours of full resolution DVD video on a DVD-r use VBR encodeing (2-pass with Tmpgenc or 3 pass with CCE) with an average bitrate setting of about 4750, max 8000, min 2000. This assumes compressed audio (not PCM).

Assuming your player can handle mp2 audio (not all can) then I would encode the audio with toolame and either mux with Tmpgenc or if your authoring proggy supports import of seperate streams, then let it do the work for you.

Hope this helps.

[daznic]

Thanks very much, that`s exactly what i needed to know !!

[medievil]

I use the standalone CCE and avisynth. One pass mon 0, max 9800mbs and a 2hour moves comes out around 3gb, add the mp2 audio and your looking at 3.5gb on average per 2hours. This achives DVD quality video (well as close as you can get with a capture)and you can even use very cheap media and the 3.5 gb doesn't reach the outer edge and you won't get skipping.

[barryb]

I encoded using CCE a 171m movie that finished up with 3.2gb. Used max of 5000, avg of 3500 and min of 2000. Quality still excellent.

Am I being too cautious?

[marvel2020]

Hey man, just use DVD2SVCD, set it up for DVD encode with your Encoder, preferly CCE, but TMPEGnc will do also.

There's a gudie here.....

http://www.vcdhelp.com/forum/userguides/114252.php

That will tell you how to set up DVD2SVCD for DVD encode.

I use it all the time, FOR DVD's-2-DVD-r or AVI's-2-DVD-r and everytime i get excellent results.
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[energy80s]

The alternative is to encode as an xCVD of 352 x 576(480) and a variable bitrate of 4000 max and 2000 min. This will give you virtually identical quality to the original DVD, but in half the file size. If you just halve the bitrate of a fullsized DVD encode (720 x 576) there are more chances of it macroblocking on fast motion. And of course the CVD aspect ratio is fine for buring directly onto a DVD-R disc.

[daznic]

Lots of ideas here, thanks everybody - The Xcvd sounds interesting especially as a few of my movies will be captured from VHS & 8mm with a lower res anyway, so full dvd res would be overkill.
I`ll try it also for DVD rips.

Cheers !

[DJRumpy]

Just a note Daznic. I would not set my MINIMUM above 300 (0 is preferable). There is no reason to set the minimum to 2000 when using VBR. You would be simply throwing away bitrate and space that could be used elsewhere. The idea of a high minimum kind of works counter to the strength and purpose of multipass VBR. Try a small test. If your player doesn't like 0 as a minimum, set it to 300.

You'll just have to try a few tests for yourself. Your source will have a large affect on how small it will compress. You could take two different movies of the same length, and compress them, and end up with two entirely different sizes. As you get used to your encoder, you'll get better at the guessing game.

If your Source is DIVX of good quality (not noisy), you should be able to squeeze 2 hours using a 0 Min, Avg 4000-5000, Max 9000 setting in CCE using 3-Pass.