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  1. Untill last days I have captured only from true video sources. Problem I have - sometimes in fast and long pans or (very rare) scene changes I see strobe effect. Made video from captured film today. It was disaster. Only really still scenes were watchable.
    As I have PVR-250, only Field B, interlaced, is option for me (at least to my knowledge). As there is no conversion steps inbetween no way field order to get messed. My TV is 50Hz interlaced.
    So, my question came in Subject..
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  2. What mpeg encoder are you using? You can change the field order in the mpeg encoder to solve your problem.
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    This field order thing is really puzzling to me. I capture in firewire from digital cam. I have standard sony minidv cam. I have been told everywhere that most camcorders capture in frame order B. When I encode in frame order B and play it on my pioneer 440 dvd player it is obvious that something is wrong. When I encode it in frame order A and play on my dvd player everything seems ok.??????
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  4. It's because of the Capture. I capture a lot for TV and have found that depending on the program, time of day, or even where in the Horizontal sync I start the capture the field order will change.
    There is really no way I know of to know which to use without converting a small sample and buring to cdrw as a test.
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  5. As I said:
    As I have PVR-250, only Field B, interlaced, is option for me (at least to my knowledge).
    Yes, I left out word "only". And I repeat, I have very few problems with pure video sources, just film. Haven't found a registry key to force card to capture with different field order (if chip even supports that).
    Or is it still problem with my player?
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    This field order thing is really puzzling to me. I capture in firewire from digital cam. I have standard sony minidv cam. I have been told everywhere that most camcorders capture in frame order B. When I encode in frame order B and play it on my pioneer 440 dvd player it is obvious that something is wrong. When I encode it in frame order A and play on my dvd player everything seems ok.??????
    It all depends on the software you are using. Some encoders set BOTTOM field first DV as scheme A, some as scheme B. You will want BOTTOM field first for DV, whichever it is on your software.
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  7. Some corrections/additions to my original post:

    This strobing effect, I have, it is called flicker more often (it is very fast). I have re-encoded some clips with wrong field order and result was much worse. And what I also get, are ghosts of fast moving objects.

    My steps are: capturing with PVR-250 (this is HW MPEG encoder)
    Trimming (with nanoPEG or Womble)
    Authoring and burning with NO conversion (Ulead DVD MF or WS)

    So, there is no place, where I can change field order (either unintentionally or intentionally). Channels (film), I have captured, show top field first (irrelevant with video ) and I capture and author (and try to play) bottom field first. So, I have interlacing artifacts on PC screen (this itself isn't big deal for me).

    Is this issue of my capture, authoring software or DVD Player (JVC XV-302)? Can this be corrected in some way? I really want to get rid of this flicker and make also my video-source DVDs more fluid.
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