converting framerate from 29.97 to 25...

[86peaches]

i have a .avi file with a framerate of 29.97 and need to convert it to 25 (i'm not sure my dvd player can take ntsc). how can i do this and maintain the rest of the file spec, including of course, the length???

[fantomlord]

I believe most PAL players can handle NTSC...I'm not positive though, as I am in the US. try a small sample encode, and see if it works ok.
if not, see this guide:
http://www.vcdhelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=78178

[86peaches]

okay, so i left it at 29.97fps and encoded in TMPGEnc with the vcd ntsc template and burned it. it played in my dvd player but for one problem - it was black & white. that aside, everything else was fine.

any ideas?

[a]

okay, so i left it at 29.97fps and encoded in TMPGEnc with the vcd ntsc template and burned it. it played in my dvd player but for one problem - it was black & white. that aside, everything else was fine. any ideas?

This is belongs to the newbie forum, not advanced conversion. Depending on how your system is set up your TV/VHS set doesn't understand NTSC signal, either you need to replace your composite video cable with a scart one, or, if this is not possible, get a new TV.

You can also start doing what you were supposed to in the beginning, which is converting your NTSC sources to PAL system. I need to warn you, however, that the quality is rarely as good as it was in the beginning of the conversion. Do a search on the forums and see the faqs, this topic is widely discussed on the site.

[86peaches]

i don't think converting framerate is newbie stuff, especially when your source is 29.97 which seeme to be an impossible situation.

my dvd plays through (a scart and into) a 3-in-1 scart box and then directly into my tv.

do you think skipping the 3-in-1 thing could make a difference or is it just a new tv...

[a]

No, the framerate conversion definitely is not a newbie topic, as it seems impossible for even experienced people to find an idiot-proof solution for this :) NTSCFilm -> PAL is almost unnoticeable, most often also is PAL -> NTSC, but to do NTSC -> PAL you will have to delete frames. More often than not you will end up with jerky video.

Your european TV set playing NTSC in black and white, however, would seem like a newbie topic to me. We need the model and brand of the TV set, and then simply check if it supports NTSC. If not, either a DVD player with an internal signal converter, an external signal converter, or a TV set that supports NTSC signal will do the job. And trust me, it will be easier to get that new hardware instead of trying to find that magic wand that makes it possible to convert NTSC->PAL without jerky playback :)

[bartman]

PAL tv's play NTSC in B&W mainly because the different frame sync causes the colour signal to be lost. The solutions you have are:
1: buy a new tv
2: buy a dvd player / VCR that can playback NTSC on PAL tv's
3: spend hours of hair pulling fun trying to convert NTSC to PAL

I personally used option #2 because cheap DVD players are easy to come by and there is really no difference in quality when playing on a standard TV....my AU$150 DVD player does more than my AU$500 one (zoom, NTSC playback, DVD-R/RW support, slow-mo, reverse playback, DTS) and I can't tell the difference in quality (my wife doesn't likt the remote however )