So? Is that difficult?

[dudulho]

Hello.

First some experiences...

I have used both TMPGe and CCE to make VCD's, every time using Virtualdub frameserve and get some issues...

In TMPGe, i get some good result's like every one. But I have noted some pauses in playback of a movie that the source frame rate is 29.97 (or 23.97) and I need to convert to PAL (352x288 - 25 fps).
I thought if i frame serve, the could be converted to any frame rate. Now I know it can't.

The problem is, how to make a movie in 25 fps, if the source (frameserved) is 23/29? ?

In part I get this conclusion because i want to use the CCE (yeah, some people say it is the better enc.), and when I select the video format, it only show the basic and "THE SVCD/VCD is not selectable!!!", because the frame rate is not correct.

So i tryed to make a frame conversion in Vdub before frameserve, AND the option 'VCD (PAL)' in CCE became available but as you know, we get the sound out of sync.

My questions are:
1. Frame serve from VIRTUALDub using a source with diferent frame rate of the converted, with no changes at frame rate (because with changes, the sound gets outsync):
a. if using TMPEG, not get pauses in the playback.
b. if Using CCE, make the VCD mode available.

2. How, if frameserve with frame rate changed, make the sound get sync with the video?

I think anyone already get this problems and I'll be gratefull if it can pass the solution (if it exists).

Waiting ...

Cya!

[Mavrick]

I’m not an expert at this. I can tell you some of the things that I have learned and save me time. I make XSVCD’s only, as I’m converting home videos to CD. I have managed over time to get it down to 4 easy steps.


Step 1: Capture the video as uncompressed AVI (this gives you the best quality to work with) as close to the final output resolution as you can. This will save encoding time if it does not have to resize it. In my case 480x480 or 640x480

Step 2: Edit the captured video. I use Media Studio Pro 6.5DC for this.

Step 3: Save the edited video in Media Studio as an MPEG2 480x480 with a VBR of 4000. Field order B first. (make sure your player can play this).

Step 4: Burn the MPEG file(s) to CD with DVD Movie Factory. Make your menus etc…

That’s it!!

You can download a trial copy of Media Studio Pro from
http://www.ulead.com/msp/runme.htm

They also offer upgrade offers from other editing software – so you can get it as cheep as $129.00 for the DC version.

Works every time and I get video as good as the original… I would say its DVD quality.

The Sound is ALWAYS in sync, and I never get microblocks...

The down side is I can only get 20-30min per CD with a bit rate that high… but with this quality, I’ll take it!

[dudulho]

Mavrick,
Because you capture your video, i think you dont make any framerate conversions.

But I get videos, don't capture them, and many of them has 23.97 fps.
I need to convert to VCD (pal) because the better resolution(352x288) and because its standart, but in this format, the frame rate must be 25 fps.

Any way, thanks for the answer.

Still waiting any answer that solve this...

[fantomlord]

are you sure you need to convert to PAL? have you tried encoding as NTSC/(film) and playing it? you might not need to do the conversion--which will save you a step and some time

[2man]

hi
if your source is *.avi you need to «demux» de video and audio using virtual dub:
1. video - direct stream copy or full process... if you want to add subs or resize(using filters) NO AUDIO
2.audio - save to wav

using the tools AVIFRATE convert the video.avi file to 25fps
now encode to video stream (M2v) and video it´s done
you will notice that the time of video as strecht. no problem.

to encode audio you must use the COOLEDIT2000 STUDIO to skrink the file.wav to adjust time = to *.M2V that you encoded before

then encode the new *.wav audio to *.mp2 or mpa and multiplex w/the video stream

i made a NTSC 23.976 to PAL 25fps with sucess using this method.
2man

[dudulho]

Thanks a lot 2man!!!

I'll try it!!

[Poplar]

I have something to say about 2man's method.

The audio part is right and I would do the same thing.

The video part is just too redundant. You have to save AVI file twice?! Hello, can you imagine the quality loss in these two conversions? Not to mention time wasted.

All you need to do is use Avisynth to change frame rate and frameserve to your encoder. One step, no intermediate files, no quality loss.

[dudulho]

yes, you are right!

Anyway thanks too both!