Pixelatedness

[Kingnog]

Is there a way to have a VCD and get rid of the..."noise"... around movement? I have motion search on highest, and if i put the "reduce noise" option on in TMPEG, it takes 20 hours to do half a movie! Any other way?

[Kingnog]

Come on guys, I need help here. Is there a way to not change the VCD from the standard and make the noise disappear? Or if not disappear, at least reduce it.

[banjazzer]

I think the word is pixellation, or pixelarityismusationthingy - one of the two.

Perhaps if you tell us the settings you are using, what your source material is, and whether this happens with all encodes, we may be able to help.

It may be that you are experiencing the limitation of VCD. However, I don't notice very much what you are seeing. This could be because my ocular sensitisation faculties have progressively degenerated. 8)

[Kingnog]

I think the word is pixellation, or pixelarityismusationthingy - one of the two.

LOL! Thats hillarious....anyway. I think it IS the limitations of VCD, but i was wondering if I could do anything about it. Im converting a DVD into a VCD...and yes this happens with all encodes. And you (well, not YOU, but me) can see the "noise" stuff in areas where there is supposed to be pure black, but it ends up being moving shades of black. Lol...I hope that makes sence!

[banjazzer]

Do you mean like a contouring effect? If so, then I think it is something you can do little about. I initially thought you meant the *mosquito* noise (as it is sometime described) around the edge of objects.

With the VCD template there is little you can do to tweak settings to alter things like this. Why not encode a problematic section (using TMPG's source range setting) to mpeg-2, and see if you get the same effect? Then you will know it it is due to VCD's low bitrate.

[snowmoon]

Many DVD's still have noise ( actually the original film does too ). Because of VCD's limited bitrate using the NR feature of TMPGenc will help, but it won't help during movement like you wanted. The only option that can really help during movement is under quantizer/soften block noise. If the two are used in combo it should look better.

I assume you are already using 23.976 ( VCDFilm ) is applicable, since that's a freebee in terms of quality improvment.

[Kingnog]

Im using 29.97 framerate....or else it will have to do a pulldown

[banjazzer]

I don't generally encode from NTSC DVDs, but using my normal methods (Smartripper, DVD2AVI etc) I would select Force Film in DVD2AVI with an NTSC source. However, whilst giving a better result, I don't think it would solve your particular problem.

[Kingnog]

Oh...I see...Thanks anyway, I'll just have to get a new dvd player that supports svcd i guess...