To Kingjohn or some other expert!

[KevN2002]

I downloaded a DVD rip SVCD recently in a cue/bin format. It just so happens that CD1 is like 1MB too big to fit on a regular 80 min CD. Overburn doesn't work with my drive..

My first thought was just to use TMPGEnc MPEG tools to cut off the beginning credits or change it to a VCD header. But when I try to load that .mpg file, it gives me an invalid video stream error.

So after many hours of searching, I finally find Goldwave, which is able to load the file and save the audio as a wav file. Then I plan to frameserver with DVD2AVI to extract the video.. Do I have to now have to reencode the video twice, 1 to extract, then again to add the audio?? I can't beleive this has been so difficult..

Also, when saving the audio in Goldwave, what should I save it as (8 bit, 16bit, etc?) I know it has to be 44100.

[kjmacke]

From what I know 8 bit is mono and 16 bit is stereo.

[BJ_M]

From what I know 8 bit is mono and 16 bit is stereo.

nope . you can have 8 bit stereo and 16 mono

[BJ_M]

I downloaded a DVD rip SVCD recently in a cue/bin format. It just so happens that CD1 is like 1MB too big to fit on a regular 80 min CD. Overburn doesn't work with my drive..

My first thought was just to use TMPGEnc MPEG tools to cut off the beginning credits or change it to a VCD header. But when I try to load that .mpg file, it gives me an invalid video stream error.

So after many hours of searching, I finally find Goldwave, which is able to load the file and save the audio as a wav file. Then I plan to frameserver with DVD2AVI to extract the video.. Do I have to now have to reencode the video twice, 1 to extract, then again to add the audio?? I can't beleive this has been so difficult..

Also, when saving the audio in Goldwave, what should I save it as (8 bit, 16bit, etc?) I know it has to be 44100.

you would not need to frame serve it anyway - as its in mpeg2 format ...

just load it into tmpgenc .. BUT

if you have to cut 1 meg .. just load it into tmpgenc and use mpeg tools and cut a few sec/frames out at the end ... then burn it .. most 2 cdsvcd should duplicate a few sec on sec cd ... anyway you would not lose much ..

better than re-encoding it

[KevN2002]

I know but read my post, TMPGEnc wont recognize or allow this file to be loaded/edited. I have the Nimo codecs installed also. The only thing that works is frameserving/reencoding.

[BJ_M]

did you extract the mpeg out of the bin file with isobuster?

[Martyn1980]

Use a program like VCD Gear or VCD Easy's dat-mpeg converter to make a proper mpg, if youve already done that, then try changing the vfapi properties in Tmpeg, to see if that makes a difference.

Or if you dont want to cut anything off, just demux the sound and video and re-encode the sound to a 192k 16bit stereo mp2, that should take around 10mb off the filesize for a 40minute mpeg, and i doubt its any less than that, and you shouldn't really hear the difference.

[banjazzer]

Or if you dont want to cut anything off, just demux the sound and video and re-encode the sound to a 192k 16bit stereo mp2

That may not even be necessary. Sometimes simply multiplexing the audio and video again will reduce the filesize. This is worth a try, and if it doesn't work then the best bet is your suggestion. I would even be prepared to go down to 160kbps.

[Martyn1980]

If it was A SVCD mulitiplexed with BBmpeg then remultiplexing it will take quite a few meg off the filesize because Tmpeg doesn't insert SVCD scan offsets.

160k sound ok, but if its only 1mb over there is no need.

[DJRumpy]

Instead of hacking into the video, why not downgrade the sound a bit? You can easily drop a little on the audio without noticably affecting quality. Afterall, we're only talking 1 megabyte here.

[DJRumpy]

I just realized you may not know how to do this. Just de-multiplex using TMPGenc. This will split your audio and video. Downgrade the video to get the desired filesize using BeSweet, Headac3, TooLame, etc. MultiPlex the two back together again. This way you don't have to re-encode, your video, you don't have to chop off part of your movie, and hopefully, the drop in quality will be unnoticable.

[KevN2002]

Right, but the problem is TMPGEnc gives an 'Illegal video stream' error, when trying to open in MPEG tools, or trying to open in the encoder without framserving thru DVD2AVI.

So, here's what I wound up doing that worked.. I extracted the audio with Goldwave, which is the only thing that worked, and saved to a 16bit stereo wav file. Then in TMPGEnc I encoded, frameserving the video with DVD2AVI from the original file, and the new .wav audio file. I used VBR with settings that wound up making a file about 5megs smaller so it worked out.. Just wish I didn't have to go thru all that..

If you guys know of a way to do it without having to reencode, I would love to know. Like I said, for some reason, this .mpg (and 1 other movie I had), would not just load up in TMPGEnc without giving an error. And I installed the Nimo full install to see if it was a missing codec or something.. It also will not play in WMP.

[Martyn1980]

In Tmpeg click on options, the environmental setting then VFAPI pulg in and put Direct Show Mulitmedia file Reader to top, and on priority 2 or 3.

The got to File Mpeg tools and simple demuliplex, and demux the sound and video you should now have a m2v and mp2 file.

Put that mp2 file in something like Headac3he and encode the audio to a 192kbps mp2 file, no need to make it a wave, then muliplex the m2v with your new mp2 file.

If you still have the original mpg to try this on,do it so if you come across this problem again you wont have to re-encode.

If Tmpeg still isn' taking the mpg, then you could try using VCD Gear on it and clicking on Remove CDI Mpeg bumper, that was the only way i could use Bourne Identity TCF screener, in Tmpeg or any VCD authoring program.

[KevN2002]

I had the priority set at 4 already. I tried the thing in VCDGear just now, and the option you said to do was 'greyed' out.. ??

[Martyn1980]

If its greyed out, then thats not the problem, and i cant think of anything else, other than bad video codecs or a fault with Tmpeg, or maybe the mpg itself, do you mind me asking what film it was and by what group.

[KevN2002]

This is Undisputed DVD rip by Flix. I had the same problem with Signs WP by TWC also.

[DJRumpy]

If you couldn't play this in WMP, the you were missing a codec, which is probably why you couldn't open it in TMPGenc. Get the missing codec, and you should be able to de-multiplex using TMPGenc's MPEG Tools.

[epo]

Stupid question, but did You extract MPEG from cue/bin?

[Martyn1980]

Oh yeah, Undisputed, i had to overburn that, it was only 2 seconds though, you sure your burner dont support overburn.

[Martyn1980]

I just extracted both mpgs of Undisputed (though im guessing its CD1 that the problem)using VCD Gear leaving all the boxes unchecked.

And i have no problems using it in Tmpeg to Simple or normal De-multiplex, thats with Tmpeg 2.57 and my registered version so i think the problem is with Tmpeg, or some other piece of software or driver on your computer.

[KevN2002]

Yes I did extract the .bin

Are you sure you got the DVD version Martyn?

What codecs could I be missing if I did the full install of Nimo?

[Martyn1980]

LOL yes im sure i have the DVD one.

480x576 25fps
2.50mbps Max video bitrate
160kbps mp2 audio
flix-undisputed1.bin

I just let Nimo install itself, but Power DVD comes with Mpeg2 codecs, that show up in my Vfapi list called Cyberlink-Mpeg2-Decoder, well i think they are from Power DVD, they might be in the new version of Tmpeg cause they only show in the demo, and not in the registered version.