How can I fit 716MB on a 700MB cd-r?

[alirio]

I have 2 avi files (size: 716,054KB & 715,592KB)...How can I fit each one on a 700MB Memorex 80-min cd-r as data?

I keep getting an error stating I don't have enough space on my media, insert one that has enough...and I get this on Nero.
Can I mess with some settings to try and fit the extra 16MB? Or am I stuck and I need to split each one in two.

Thanks.

[oldfart13]

Have you tried the overburn selection in Nero? Why are you saving AVI's as data? If you save them as video, they should fit no problem. 800 Meg SVCDs fit 700 Meg (80 min.) CDRs if burned as video...

[snowmoon]

Tyr and overburn, and make sure you are running DOA ( disk at once ) mode or else it will fail.

[alirio]

Have you tried the overburn selection in Nero? Why are you saving AVI's as data? If you save them as video, they should fit no problem. 800 Meg SVCDs fit 700 Meg (80 min.) CDRs if burned as video...

well see I'm saving alot of 700MB+ videos as back-ups cause I don't have enough room to encode and eveything that's why.

In regards to the overburn, I read the warning in the "Expert Features" under the Properties tab in Nero that it might damage my CD recorder. And I don't want that to happen...

So if I Enable overburn 'disc-at-once' burning what should I place as values in the "Maximum CD Length"?

Thanks for your help!

[biggantdogg]

As far as that warning goes, I've never heard of anyone damaging their recorder due to that. Just be sure not to go over 2min overburn. After that, you risk making a coaster, or a pixelated masterpiece!

[alirio]

but you do know what warning I'm talking about right? Well I guess I'll give it a try...

[sporlan]

buy 800 megs cds and you still have to set nero up to do overburn

[pepa2]

buy Multidisc 870 MB and burn it in NERO 5599 , enable overburn !, I did it for a many times... and no problem my CD writer is LITE ON 32x version w.

[mdm]

If you're only doing it for backup, why don't you just use WinRAR to make a multi-part archive?

[banjazzer]

If you are familiar with DivX you can try recoding the credits. They only need a very low bitrate.

[alirio]

Why are you saving AVI's as data? If you save them as video, they should fit no problem. 800 Meg SVCDs fit 700 Meg (80 min.) CDRs if burned as video...

I did do the overburn method and worked with no problem, but I have a few questions....
can I save them as video (instead of data) in Nero, without having to encode it? I don't know if I'm asking the right question, but like if I save it as video without encoding it will it give me more data space?

If you're only doing it for backup, why don't you just use WinRAR to make a multi-part archive?

I've never used WinRAR, do you know of any great tutorials on how I can do this? Is that the program to open rar files?

I don't know where you all get 800MB cd-rs cause my Best Buy or Circuit City where I live don't even carry these?

Thanks for all the replies.

[eatin sammiches for lunch]

divx/avi arent vcd/svcd formats so u wont be able to fit 800 megs on a 700 meg cd-r.


if u definately want each video on one cd and u cant cut anything from them like the credits and u dont have access to 90 or 99 minute cdr's
(try qtccdr.com they have 99 min cd's )

looks like re encoding is your solution ...u can re encode and make your video 16 meg less without any major (or minor) quality changes

and with winrar...if your video is divx its really compressed as it is and u probably wont be able to get it that much smaller than its original size

winrar just creates a zipped file and if u rar/zip the file and burn to a cd-r u wont be able to directly view the video from the cd , your will have to unrar/unzip the file before u would be able to watch it

[Gargoyle]

I have successfully burned a 715 MB file (Shaolin soccer - DIVX) to a 700 MB CDR with Nero by setting it to Mode2 (same format as VCD/SVCD) .....
see my reply to this post: http://www.vcdhelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=110993&highlight=

[mdm]

Alirio:

Yes, WinRAR is the program to use. You can set the volume size to use when creating the archive, so if you set it to 700mbs it would give you two files that will fit on CDs. As I mentioned before, this is only suitable for backup purposes since you have to un-RAR it back to your HD to view.

I dont' know of any tutorials, but it is fairly simple to use. I take a look at the WinRAR website for help.

[alirio]

thanks for all the replies, I'm gonna definitely look into all the suggestions.

[oldfart13]

I've found that if the video is a VCD and you want to convert it to something that will fit a single 80 min. CDR, there is a Wizard in TMPGEnc 2.5+ that will help you with this.

Also, where in Canada can you buy 90 or 99 min. CDRs? No such place where I am has even heard of them...

[vitualis]

I have successfully burned a 715 MB file (Shaolin soccer - DIVX) to a 700 MB CDR with Nero by setting it to Mode2 (same format as VCD/SVCD) .....
see my reply to this post: http://www.vcdhelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=110993&highlight=

You are still making a CD-ROM. You cannot burn a CD-ROM like a S/VCD.

The MPEG tracks are in Mode2 Form2.

Setting Nero to Mode2 for CD-ROMs will burn the data in Mode2 Form 1 sectors.

You will have exactly the same capacity as ordinary Mode1 discs.

The reason your movie fit onto a 700 Mb disc is because you were able to overburn.

Regards.

[banjazzer]

I have 2 avi files (size: 716,054KB & 715,592KB)...How can I fit each one on a 700MB Memorex 80-min cd-r as data?

According to my calculations, 716,054KB and 715,592KB are both 699MB, so I'm not sure what the problem is. 8)

Vitualis wrote

You are still making a CD-ROM. You cannot burn a CD-ROM like a S/VCD.

True for Nero but.......

You can burn AVI files in mode 2 with this little proggy........

http://www.doom9.org/Soft21/SupportUtils/mode2cdmaker-14.zip

from the readme..........

With this tool you can build a CD/XA Bridge image using any file you want
(not just MPEGs). What's the point? Well, using Mode2/Form2 you have bigger
user data sector sizes so you can fit more data in a single CD-R (up to 800
MB of data in a 80 min. disc).

What's the drawback, then? There is an issue on how Windows handles these
discs. It reads the files burned this way as RAW data, and it also appends
a RIFF/CDXA header at the beggining of the file. So you cannou burn anything
you want ant then just see it like any other file: you must deal with this
RIFF/CDXA stuff.

Here you have the theoretical max. capacities for each type of media:

+--------+--------+--------+--------+
| 74 min | 80 min | 90 min | 99 min |
+--------+--------+--------+--------+--------+
| Mode 1 | 650 MB | 703 MB | 791 MB | 870 MB |
+--------+--------+--------+--------+--------+
| Mode 2 | 738 MB | 798 MB | 897 MB | 987 MB |
+--------+--------+--------+--------+--------+

The Mode 1 line shows the "original" CD capacity, the Mode 2 the one that
can be achieved using mode2cdmaker. In the practice you'll have to substract
approx. 1 MB from the Mode 2 values since it's reserved for the ISO Bridge
track. In my calculations 1 MB = 2^20 (1024*1024), and not this 1000*1000
stupid value used by the HD makers' marketing division.

[vitualis]

Yes, I know about that...

However, you are making non-conventional discs and there is no guarantee that it will work (?? was someone making special CD drivers for this as well -- I haven't kept up with its development).

This stuff, though exciting, is definitely EXPERIMENTAL. I suggest that you stick to ordinary CD-ROMs for you regualar DivX discs.

Regards.

[banjazzer]

Well, this is all very interesting. I'm glad I don't have a problem fitting 699MB on a 700MB disc. 8)

banjazzer

+----------+--------+--------+--------+--------+
+-------------74 min | 80 min | 90 min | 99 min |
+--------+--------+--------+--------+--------+
| Mode 1 | 650 MB | 703 MB | 791 MB | 870 MB |
+--------+--------+--------+--------+--------+
| Mode 2 | 738 MB | 798 MB | 897 MB | 987 MB |
+--------+--------+--------+--------+--------+


I should be more careful with cut & paste.